What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?

[ThomM]

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No, just the God which the bible claims to be the true god.

Which is the JEWISH god Yahweh - as claimed in the Old Testament
AND the Jewish god is singular -not a trinity

Sadly, most christians have not read the whole bible, but fortunately that's not a requirement for salvation.

There is NO need for salvation - there is nothing to be saved from that is real.


Not without question. That's some peoples opinion and not others. I also don't cherry pick.

So then YOU accept that when a woman is raped by a man - she must marry that man - that is a law of god in the bible.

Yes. And it will happen.

Really - a belief is not truth


Joseph was his father. It doesn't say he

had to be his genetic father.

Sorry - Line - when mentioned in this context in hebrew - MEANS bloodline - through the male. Joseph was in no way the christ's "father" - via bloodline. The christ cannot be the messiah - because he cannot have fulfilled the requirements in the bible to be the messiah - and this is just one he cannot fulfill. The messiah was to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem - but during the supposed time of the christ - the temple had not yet been destroyed again - it was the wrong time.

And the claim of a NEW COVENANT - replacing the old - admit that the god LIES. If the god was ALL knowing - past -present and future - then it would have KNOWN when it made the first Covenant with man - that is was NOT going to live up to it - so the word of the god is worthless since it lies - IN THE BIBLE.

He did know that man was not going to live up to it. Part of the purpose of the covenant was to demonstrate that fact. We know that we must rely on him to be saved.
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So - he made a commitment that HE did not live up with as well - A lie - without question. AND just one of many in the bible

As I noted - in the bible - a person who says something that does not happen is designated at False Prophet and should be ignored. The christ said that there would be some who would not die - before he returned in glory - and there is STILL no one alive from that era. Based on the bible itself - the christ is False.

So if the bible is true - as YOU claim - then I can use the bible to prove the religion wrong

You can ignore it - but then that is the indoctrination coming through


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