(May 8, 2014 at 1:01 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So it's your claim that these two otherwise identical groups of skinks have existed in parallel forever, and that the existence of intermediate variations on the same skink that retain the eggshells despite giving live birth for noticeably longer is just a coincidence?No, as I haven't studied it enough to make such a claim, or to evaluate your claim that they're otherwise identical. But, the articles do not support your claim. you act as if all skink populations had been studied and found to be egg layers, and then a known population began live births. That's not the case.
Quote:Unanimity doesn't matter, as there's rarely complete consensus over any area of science, but leave it to a theist to demand absolutes.It matters when you present one position as a given. It's not a given.![]()
Quote:And it's simple logic (math actually) that 1+1-1=1, putting you right back where you started. You've been talking out of both sides of your mouth regarding the straight line.
My position stands because it's the one that's observed, the one with the evidence behind it. We can demonstrably show that small changes occur and are retained within populations, and it's simple logic that one plus one equals two even when it's applied to mutations within a population.
Quote:You're attempting to inject an additional layer of complexity into the proceedings, a positive claim that, though one plus one does equal two, once the number gets to ninety-nine there's something preventing it from reaching one hundred, and I'm sorry if this makes you uncomfortable John, but that's something you are required to provide evidence for before it becomes remotely believable.See above - you never got to 99.
Quote:The fact that, so far, rather than simply cutting the Gordian Knot and presenting evidence that microevolution is somehow prevented from continuing once it reaches the species threshold, you instead opt to sling around misapplied accusations of fallacies at me, is rather telling.The fact that I just want scientific evidence for macroevolution - a term coined by and still used by evolutionists - but get everything but such evidence is rather telling.