Probability of God's existence → zero

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How can you possibly say what qualities an entirely unknown, hypothetical entity must have?

They're defined in that religion.

Which monotheist God am I referring to? There should be one God, but there are, in fact, several monotheist Gods. Thus, we could at this point determined how likely it is that God is the Christian version. He could be Jewish, Islamic, Sikh and all other versions ... But even if he was the Christian God, would he be the Lutheran God or the Anglican, Catholic, Maronite, Coptic or Methodist God (to name a few). So the chances that he is (1) a Christian God and then (2) a particular sect of Christianity is a small chance.

Or none of the above.

Is this an attempt to refute me? or is it merely a frivolous remark?

- However, the main bulk of the thread lies here.

God is simply a word used to denote the concurrent existence a set of qualities. The main ones are below:

* Omnipotence
* Omniscience
* Omnipresence
* Morality
* Purpose giver
* Our creator

Other than Omnipotence and Prime-mover i see no reason why any of these other attributes are essential to the definition of a god. You should really be addressing a particular set of attributes given by an individual believer. God can be defined in any number of ways and as such arguing from your own definitions is just going to seem ridiculous to anyone in who doesn't share you predefined god.

Anyone who doesn't share you predefined god?

You're presumably not talking about all the Abrahamic believers?

Anyone this is another frivolous remark, that avoids dealing with the bulk of my post.

So the chance of a single entity in the whole universe is infinitesimal.

So is the chances of your own existence, yet you exist, right?

Is this how you debate? By isolateing each individual sentence from my post, taking it out of context and attempting to refute it?

Had you bothered to read the entire post, you'll notice I attributed the Abrahamic beliefs of a monotheistic God to that entity. And NOOOOTT merely any entity!

The existence of a single most powerful entity and (at the same time) the most moral (or absolutely perfect) are independent qualities, as are the rest. That means it would require an infinitesimal chance with an infinitesimal chance.

So are the chances of yourself, an infinitesimally likely to occur individual, being moral to any given point.

Read my comment above.

To add to the growing infinitesimal chance, we would have to consider the probability of the existence of an entity that is omniscient, omnipresent, our creator, our purpose-giver, and not even mentioning an eternal entity! That is, in effect, an infinitesimal chance raised to the power of as many qualities as you define in God.

So are the chances of you possessing your own attributes, such as your height, hair color, average bone density etc.

Now, you're moving from a mere entity (as above) to adding attribtes to that entity.

Whilst, you seem to be slowly getting the point of the thread, you have forgotten the whole element of the PROBABILITY of those attributes.

We can now say that there is a very infinitesimal chance that God exists.

There is also an infinitesimal chance that an you should exist.

*sigh*

An absolutely infinitesimal chance can be ignored and rounded to zero as not being statistically significant.

So there is also zero chance that you exist?

*sigh*

The chance of a plane falling out of the sky and falling on me the next time I leave the house, is infinitesimal. For all intents and purposes, we round it to zero!

You do not round it to zero, you keep it as a small probability, if you have any intentions of being intellectually honest that is.

If there was an infinitesimal x,

then y + x = y.

When talking about the infinitesimal probability in isolation then I don't think there is any problem in calling it "zero".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinitesimal

So practically speaking, there is zero chance of God's existence.

And by the same logic there is zero chance of your own existence...

I had a much better discussion here. Once you actually get my post, the discussion can get interesting.