Argument #2: Evolution Of Species

[Revelation777]

Are you insinuating that the Bible says the world is flat? It doesn't say that.

Matthew 4:8: "Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world"

Luke 4:5: "And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time."

This is not saying the world is flat. The Devil supernaturally showed Jesus all the kingdoms he was in control over. I picture it more like watching a movie. According to Scripture, Satan has supernatural powers.


Isaiah 40:22: "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in." (note:Isaiah does NOT use the Hebrew word for sphere, Kadur here.)

The word in Hebrew used here CAN be interpreted also as sphere. Also, often in the Bible figuratively just like it refers to people as grasshoppers, stretches out the heavens.

Isaiah 11:12 "And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."

Revelation 7:1 "And after these things I saw four angels standing on four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree."

Again, this is figurative language. Just like if I were to say, to the ends of the earth.

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Given that it's the first concrete detail we've gotten out of Rev regarding an area of biology...

I agree completely, I'm hoping he can add a bit to the interbreeding stipulation. He may not, and I may be given license to decide his religious beliefs for him (my interpretations of the scripture he posted). At this point I am not sure which is more likely, but I'm hoping he decides to communicate with me and not talk at me.

So far slow going, but there is always the chance. I don't have to agree with him, I just need to know what the words he uses actually mean to him, or there is nothing but noise.

So help me out here Rev! I want to know what YOU think.

What do you want to know?

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As a red labeled member, let me encourage you to set an example on this forum for proper decorum.

As a green-labelled member, let me inform you that you are not a red-labelled member.

(See the importance of grammar in discussions?)

Anyway, I'm sure I speak for the newly-ripened CD when I say:

ok

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As a red labeled member, let me encourage you to set an example on this forum for proper decorum.

Eat me.


How's that for proper decorum?

I see, ok. Well, then. Pretend I never brought up the suggestion.

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When Jesus returns there will be no atheists left. But till then there will be unbelief.

Good luck with that. When that happens, when ol' "Pity Me" decides to show his beardy face, give me a call. In the meantime, I'll thank you to keep your preachy platitudes and contemptuous condemnations to your sanctimonious self, m'kay?

Did you get offended?

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Did you really think the likes of Revs could ever have had another purpose for being here than to preach, using whatever disguise they imagined would help them get through the vigilance of those who have become inured to normal modes of christain proselytizing?

Is that a rethorical question?

Now lets not stereotype

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So kind just means species then?

The Holy Scriptures does not get into great detail on this. It gives a general account of creation.

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Origins and DNA evidence
Biologists use the DNA sequences of modern organisms to reconstruct the tree of life and to figure out the likely characteristics of the most recent common ancestor of all living things — the "trunk" of the tree of life. In fact, according to some hypotheses, this "most recent common ancestor" may actually be a set of organisms that lived at the same time and were able to swap genes easily. In either case, reconstructing the early branches on the tree of life tells us that this ancestor (or set of ancestors) probably used DNA as its genetic material and performed complex chemical reactions. But what came before it? We know that this last common ancestor must have had ancestors of its own - a long line of forebears forming the root of the tree of life - but to learn about them, we must turn to other lines of evidence.

Just because organisms have DNA with common genetic materials doesn't prove all species have a common ancestor.

You don't actually understand the DNA evidence, do you?

DNA is a string of pairs of purines (Adenine and Guanine) and pyrimidines (Cytosine and Thymine), two of each.
DNA codes for making amino acids.
The code is determined by triplets of these pairs.
Since each location can be one of four combinations (A-T, T-A, G-C, C-G), there are 64 possible triplets. These triplets code for 20 amino acids and a start/stop processing code.

The odds of arriving at that particular coding are about a million million million million million to one.

Every organism on earth uses the same code. Every. Single. One.

That clearly means common ancestry.

Thank you for the lesson. However, why can't an all-powerful God have used the same code? He is the Creator, sounds like He certainly could of done it that way.