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Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Universal Intelligence"?
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RE: Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Univer...
(May 14, 2014 at 9:14 am)Hegel Wrote:
(May 14, 2014 at 8:39 am)pocaracas Wrote: You people and your quantum phenomena in the brain... -.-'
Neurons work based on ion exchanges...

Everyone knows that . ^_^
The idea in "quantum-brain" phenomena is based on very intricate knowledge of neuro-anatomy ... its a scientific theory, not some "it seems to me"-type speculation.

The idea is that consciousness is not just neuronal, but that in order for the brain to be conscious, sub-neuronal quantum-processes on the cytoskeletal level have to take place in the microtubulars of the neurons. Until very recently it was refuted and for this reason the theory was not accepted as valid hypothesis by most scientists, that quantum-superpositions should not appear at such level, except in at 0 K. But this has has now been shown to be not the case.

So the first layer of complexity brought forth by the sheer number of neurons is added upon by another layer of complexity with "quantum-processes on the cytoskeletal level have to take place in the microtubulars of the neurons."
Why the added baggage? Shouldn't the first layer be enough to bring about consciousness?
Aren't current developments in AI showing just how this is so?
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RE: Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Univer... - by pocaracas - May 14, 2014 at 10:08 am

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