RE: Prayer Studies
May 17, 2014 at 4:20 am
(This post was last modified: May 17, 2014 at 4:27 am by Heywood.)
(May 17, 2014 at 12:14 am)Chuck Wrote: Can you suggest a prayer study that is, in your considered,opinion, not flawed, and yet is, through some explicable mechanism, capable of actually detecting the Inefficacy of prayer should praying to Jesus actually be ineffective?
I get it. A non flawed study is one that, somehow, anyhow, arrived at the conclusion that praying to god works but praying to ally doesn't. The flaw study is one which would have been considered unflawed if it detected that praying to Allah doesn't work but praying to Jesus works.
I might say I am holding my breath, but I would have to be truly immortal to wait that long, whether holding my breath or not.
I cannot suggest any prayer study that wasn't flawed regardless of its results. I don't conflate results with methodology like you seem to be doing.
(May 17, 2014 at 3:51 am)Esquilax Wrote: Heywood, why do you think that making prayer more unfalsifiable improves your case for it, or the case for your god?
This thread isn't about whether prayer works or if my God exists. It is about the prayer studies being fatally flawed.
(May 17, 2014 at 3:57 am)max-greece Wrote: God might have chosen to ignore the prayers as part of a scientific test - but to make matters worse? What a churlish God you have!
Most studies the prayer is offered to a God who condemned all of humanity for the action of Adam. They are testing for evidence for a churlish God.....but their tests are unreliable.


opinion, not flawed, and yet is, through some explicable mechanism, capable of actually detecting the Inefficacy of prayer should praying to Jesus actually be ineffective?