(June 5, 2014 at 4:48 am)max-greece Wrote: We can, however, independently assess God on the basis of his story and see what lies there are. So, for example, we don't know that God is lying when he says Eve will die if she eats the fruit, because ultimately, according to the story, she does die as does Adam.
You're about to get the "oh, it was a spiritual death!" excuse, which actually adds to your point, because it shows that the actual words of the bible cannot be trusted to accurately represent its meaning.
The average believer will go on about how totally clear the bible is, a book where the word "day" means more than a day, where dying doesn't mean death, where murder is just and thinking about adultery is the same thing as actual adultery. The bible misrepresents so many simple concepts, according to the apologetics required to make it function in the world we know that we can't possibly be justified in believing it because there's no way to judge how twisted the vernacular is once we've accepted that the word "day" means "not day" when it's expressed in scripture, but only sometimes. What we have there is a book where individual words shift meaning on a dime so that simple sentences can be twisted to fit actual facts by being forced to say the opposite of what they actually say, based only on the interpretation of a group of people who couldn't possibly know what the original authorial intent was, and are hence just making shit up.
Even if we accept all these twisty apologetics, god is still lying by omission by slathering his word in such misleading language. If a conman misrepresented his product as badly as god does his, he'd be breaking the law.
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