RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 9:35 pm
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2014 at 9:46 pm by Ravenshire.)
(June 6, 2014 at 1:16 am)Esquilax Wrote:(June 6, 2014 at 12:28 am)mickiel Wrote:(June 6, 2014 at 12:25 am)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: So, what facts did you find that "prove" your gawd? Even if it is only a "personal proof" (whatever the hell that is).
Man, that's like asking me to write a book. I have found thousands of them, and the list is still growing. But this thread is about science prior relationship to the church.
Believe me, a new thread on that topic would be well attended: we haven't had new theist arguments for a while.
As to your initial argument, the split between science and the church can be pinned down to one thing: the intellectual honesty of those who respected the scientific method. To be clear, science isn't against god, it's against untrue things, and things without evidence- like gods- are really very close to being untrue things. Certainly, they aren't things we should accept as true.
The fact that science split from the church has nothing to do with jealousy, or a lust for power or any of that nonsense; it was simply because the church was unable to back up its claims with evidence befitting the scientific method, which is actually a trivially easy thing to do. That the church stumbled at the very first hurdle doesn't reflect poorly on science, but rather on the church itself.
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Well, I asked for facts. He said he had "thousands" and it would take a new thread. Esquilax invited him to create such thread and here we are.
Facts? I've yet to see one. What I have seen are (please google any following phrase with which you are un-familliar) bare assertions, logical fallacies, arguments from ignorance, god-of-the-gaps, circular reasoning, etc... In short, your usual, typical theist bullshit party.
mickiel, please present some of the facts you claim to have that prove the existence of god, and the evidence that supports said facts. It's your claim that you have facts that prove god. The burden of is on you.
(June 6, 2014 at 2:16 pm)mickiel Wrote: And I am not outnumbered, I'm just getting started; you're going to need those numbers before this is over.
(June 6, 2014 at 2:28 pm)mickiel Wrote: It got most of these 12 discoveries right as well
http://christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a026.html
You're talking about a book which is allegedly the holy word of the divine creator of the universe. How could it be anything less than perfect? Yet it is. Not just once or twice, but all through the damned thing. Your gawd must be a serious lack-wit.
(June 6, 2014 at 2:30 pm)mickiel Wrote: I been demonstrating it for 12 pages now, wonder why you can't see it?
You've been demonstrating jack shit!
(June 6, 2014 at 2:34 pm)mickiel Wrote: The way I know, is the exact same way you know things
No. It's not. Really. It's absolutely not.
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