RE: Las Vegas shooting = Tea Party terrorism
June 13, 2014 at 7:47 am
(This post was last modified: June 13, 2014 at 7:51 am by Brian37.)
I am not a fan of the word "terrorist". It elevates the sickos to freedom fighters in the eyes of their supporters. They should be treated as the mere thugs and criminals they are.
In the civil west we are supposed to accept that sometimes we win or lose elections and should value the peaceful transfer of power. Getting violent does not prove to me you are worthy of listening to.
Slamming planes into buildings, shooting abortion doctors, or murdering cops on a lunch break, makes you a murderer, not a hero. Violence takes no brains. Thinking through problem solving and conflict resolution does.
Bullshit argument. This is the same problem Harris has with liberal atheists and theists about enabling the zealots. You do not do humanity any favors by hiding be hind religion to protect nuts. Same with guns. You do not help yourself as a gun owner by getting angry at the people who know it is a problem. Instead you should be getting angry at the people who make it a problem.
"Not all people" is a bad argument which is not what we argue with religion or guns. All it takes is "just enough" to fuck things up for everyone.
Get angry at the right people instead of getting angry at the people who are merely pointing out a problem exists.
In the civil west we are supposed to accept that sometimes we win or lose elections and should value the peaceful transfer of power. Getting violent does not prove to me you are worthy of listening to.
Slamming planes into buildings, shooting abortion doctors, or murdering cops on a lunch break, makes you a murderer, not a hero. Violence takes no brains. Thinking through problem solving and conflict resolution does.
(June 13, 2014 at 7:10 am)Chas Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 9:47 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Well the president for those wars were started by good liberals JFK and LBJ and their wonderful escapade in Vietnam. Also there has been plenty of domestic leftwing terrorism in history.
Um, no.
Eisenhower sent the first troops in. He was hardly a liberal.
(June 12, 2014 at 10:49 pm)whateverist Wrote: Okay, can we agree on "fuck gun nutters and the dimwitted people in media and politics that enable them"?
No, we can't. You seem to be calling any kind of wacko a 'gun nutter' if he happens to have a gun.
And the media demonize gun owners far more often than not. How is that 'enabling'?
Bullshit argument. This is the same problem Harris has with liberal atheists and theists about enabling the zealots. You do not do humanity any favors by hiding be hind religion to protect nuts. Same with guns. You do not help yourself as a gun owner by getting angry at the people who know it is a problem. Instead you should be getting angry at the people who make it a problem.
"Not all people" is a bad argument which is not what we argue with religion or guns. All it takes is "just enough" to fuck things up for everyone.
Get angry at the right people instead of getting angry at the people who are merely pointing out a problem exists.
