Abortion is morally wrong

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Esquilax, autonomy is never and should never trump the ethical consequences of allowing murder. Autonomy is good up until the point someone chooses to enact something immoral. Our justice system and all morality indeed, rests on this principle. The fact that it is not applied in the act of abortion I believe, is a gross injustice and ignorance on the topic. If a fetus is human than eliminating it is morally wrong and should not be allowed. The simple fact that it is using a women's body is a secondary fact.

Here's the thing: merely asserting that this is murder doesn't change the fact that the situation you're describing is actually something else. Is it murder to not donate an organ to someone that needs it? If your answer is no- and why shouldn't it be?- then neither is not allowing a fetus to live inside you.

You keep trying to wrench the conversation onto one track when the rest of us have already told you we disagree with your initial premise, and you seem incapable of defending it.

Secondly, I am moving from the starting point of objective morality due to the fact that if denied, this discussion has no merit. Autonomy, life, ect. have no value at all and murder would be morally acceptable. This is not relevant to the discussion my friend.

I have a human derived morality, determined from observations of the world, that also values life and autonomy. Don't mistake the morality you'd like there to be for the only kind of morality there could ever be. That's a different discussion, but please continue this one under the knowledge that the rest of us have functioning moral models that don't subscribe to the same tenets as yours.

Esquilax, aborting a human being infringes on their body as well. Albeit, in the most final and morally unacceptable way.

No, it simply stops the fetus from infringing on someone else. If someone breaks into your house, it's not against their autonomy for you to eject them from the premises and back onto the street.