(June 20, 2014 at 10:47 am)vodkafan Wrote:(June 20, 2014 at 10:36 am)Heywood Wrote: Vodka, the amount of care the mother gives to her fetus is the same as she gives to the bacteria that inhabits her gut. The mother's womb happens to be the environment in which the fetus lives, just as the gut is the environment bacteria live. The fetus lives just fine in the womb without any intervention on the mother's part.
No. Simply not true. The relationship is more like that of a symbiotic relationship. Huge hormonal and bodily changes. If the mother's body is injured then materials can even be despatched from the fetus to repair the mother, up to a point. Heywood, you are stretching the point to relate a human baby to bacteria in the gut. Everybody knows that it takes 9 months to grow a healthy human baby. It is a pretty impressive process. You seem to want us to agree that it is a full human being from the moment of conception when cells start dividing. It isn't. Many such zygotes are aborted naturally within three months.
You want us to agree to full human status so that you can argue that killing such a zygote is morally wrong.
A zygote is a human being. Like I said earlier...arguing that it isn't is like arguing the world is flat.....I don't take people who put forth such arguments too seriously. Now should human beings which are in their embryonic stage be morally protected? That's a different question entirely.