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Tea Party candidate taken behind the woodshed by an old man asking a simple question
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RE: Tea Party candidate taken behind the woodshed by an old man asking a simple question
(June 21, 2014 at 1:50 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(June 21, 2014 at 1:42 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Pedantically, correct. They are not the same thing. In reality - the tax exemption is worth *more* to the recipient and costs everyone else more than. A subsidy does.

Let's do a little thought experiment to illustrate this - I'll keep it simple for purposes of illustration, which will affect the magnitude of the effects, but will retain their relative differences.

The king has three subjects, each of which is taxed equally 100 gold coins. The kingdom requires 300 gold to keep it running. The king doesn't like all if his subjects equally though, and so has a plan to continue to apportion taxes equally amongst his taxpaying subjects, while favoring those he likes.

The king likes subject A very much, and grants him an exemption from taxes. A pockets 100 gold he would otherwise pay.

The 300 gold tax burden is split between B and C, who must now pay 150 each.

But wait, the king also favors subject B, but not as much as subject A - and grants him a 100 gold subsidy, something not accounted for in the original castle budget, which now must be shifted onto C.

Net effect, A is 100 richer, B is 50 richer, and C is 150 poorer. Even though B comes out ahead in this scenario, he comes out less favorably than if A was not exempted. Either way, C takes it sans lube.

By gum, you're right. Dollar-for-dollar, tax exemptions are *worse* than subsidies.

Only the magnitudes are exaggerated. The relative impacts are not. Everybody that pays taxes is effectively subsidizing non-taxpayers.

The problem with your analogy is it is not a king granting an exemption but the people who pay the taxes granting the exemption.

I didn't realize I had a vote in Congress, Heywood.

Substitute a representative government if you like. What's important is the numbers. Your statement was that exemptions are not (equal) to subsidies, not anything about the form of government. Don't try to shift the goalposts.
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RE: Tea Party candidate taken behind the woodshed by an old man asking a simple question - by Jackalope - June 21, 2014 at 1:52 pm

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