RE: Christians, what is your VERY BEST arguments for the existence of God?
May 7, 2010 at 6:28 am
Quote:I tend to use belief as more of a know and faith as more of a hope.
I think you are conflating certainty and personal certitude. When a believer says " I KNOW there is a God" My understanding is he is referring to Gnosis,which is very different from scientific evidence based knowledge..
If I understand you,it seems to me that your position is based on Neo Platonism,in that you assert truth may be inferred though reason alone.That is a position I reject outright. A materialist, I assert that knowledge must be based on evidence, or it remains an hypothesis.
My position on the existence of God(s) is simple but as yet unsatisfied: You believe in God(s)? Fine; show me.
From wiki on Gnosis ,which is pretty much how I understand your claim to 'know'. Are we on the same page or in different books?
Quote:Gnosis (from one of the Greek words for knowledge, γνῶσις) is the spiritual knowledge of a saint[1] or mystically enlightened human being. Within the cultures of the term's provenance (Byzantine and Hellenic) gnosis was a special knowledge or insight into the infinite, divine and uncreated in all and above all,[2] rather than knowledge strictly into the finite, natural or material world which is called Epistemological knowledge.[
Gnosis is a transcendental as well as mature understanding.[4] It indicates direct spiritual experiential knowledge[5] and intuitive knowledge, mystic rather than that from rational or reasoned thinking. Gnosis itself is obtained through understanding at which one can arrive via inner experience or contemplation such as an internal epiphany of intuition and external epiphany such as the Theophany.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosis
Here I am not mocking or arguing with you,but trying to understand your position. I have never seen religious belief as a matter of choice. I am neither anti theist nor anti religion. (although I consider organised religion as parasitic)