(June 21, 2014 at 10:15 pm)Arthur123 Wrote: Esquilax, genetics is all that matters. When you say you shouldn't kill a human being it is *implied* philosophically that the human is alive. This is because killing something that's not alive is incoherent.
Except that "life" is an attribute itself.
Look, if I say that every dog is blue, and you show me a dog that isn't blue and I turn around and say that every dog bar that particular breed is blue, am I not appealing to an additional attribute in the set I'm constructing?
You're saying that all things within set A have property C. I'm showing you a thing in set A that doesn't possess property C, and you're saying that this is okay because that A doesn't have property B, which is required to possess property C, and then pretending that you haven't appealed to property B.
The whole point of this argument is to get you to focus on the actual point of contention in this moral argument, life, rather than one that is irrelevant, like genetics. But because having to argue life would mean doing some extra legwork, you don't seem to want to go there, which is a pity because you kinda have to. Otherwise, your position is incoherent from the outset, and not worth considering.
If you want to talk about the morality of abortions that's fine, but let's not pretend your case is something it's not. You're trying to present an iron clad fact at the front end, while secretly appealing to a much more vague and philosophically interesting principle, that doesn't necessarily support you, on the back end.
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