(June 22, 2014 at 10:57 am)Arthur123 Wrote: Now I understand your case much better Esquilax, however, I would say that being alive is a mode of a thing not some added on property. Inherent in certain sentences is categorical truths. For example, when we say bob dies it is inherent in that statement is that Bob is not alive. When I say killing a fetus is wrong, Implied in that statement is that it is alive. Life is a necessary property in regards to the statement killing a fetus is wrong rather than a contingent property.
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Alright, so where did you demonstrate that a fetus is alive, sufficient to say that killing one is immoral? It doesn't even have a brain at the time. It doesn't matter what you care to call your application of life in this question, my point is that it represents a gap you haven't yet even attempted to bridge in your argument.
A fetus is a bundle of cells for the point in its development where the majority of abortions take place; one could quite easily argue that it isn't alive in any significant sense. That's why I say that railroading this issue into talking about genetics is irrelevant to the actual argument.
Quote:Bad Wolf, when someone states a proposition, unless there is a defeater (undercutting or otherwise) it can be said that the proposition is true.
No, no, no, no, no!
Look up the burden of proof. Those who make positive claims are required to demonstrate those claims (demonstrate, not merely assert) that they are true before they can be taken as true. It's not up to us to debunk every random claim you feel like making before you let go of them, that's ass backwards. I could make plenty of claims that you can't rebut, that doesn't make them true by default. All you've done so far is make an assertion, and then continue to make that assertion and pretend that the counter arguments we've made don't exist. It's actually really frustrating.
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