(June 24, 2014 at 7:45 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(June 24, 2014 at 7:34 am)Irrational Wrote: It is possible to have a morality consensus without it being objective.
Legal rules are still based on some human standard.
But a human standard that is completely unreliable?
Thank you for the confirmation rhythm. Why you have to be an asshole is entirely understandable. Mods shouldn't be assholes. I guess you skipped quality control.
Frodo, reality is messy and there is no such thing as a utopia. We have common law for a reason and we have peaceful transfer of power through elections for a reason. Absolute morality through political or religious ideology doesnt do shit to value consent and oversight. It simply gives humans an excuse to be petulant tribal gangs.
This isn't just about abortion, but life in general. If every sing person, believer or atheist, got to have absolute power we could all think of reasons to get violent with people we disagree with.
Now since this thread IS about abortion let me tell you that despite what pro birthers might think, and as I have said before. Abortions are not something any of us find joy in and throw parties over. AND like pro lifers we do value the idea of a healthy kid and wanted baby. The problem is that between the health of the mother, baby and economics, you will NOT end up with that happy ending 100% of the time. All outlawing abortion will do is make it more dangerous and get more girls/women killed needlessly.
The best anyone is going to get is to allow a trained doctor to asses the circumstances of all the factors and allow the girl/women and doctor to make that decision.
The baby is ONE factor in this, but not the only factor.
