RE: Abortion is morally wrong
June 24, 2014 at 8:37 am
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2014 at 8:44 am by Brian37.)
(June 24, 2014 at 8:02 am)Irrational Wrote:(June 24, 2014 at 7:45 am)fr0d0 Wrote: But a human standard that is completely unreliable?
Depends on the country you're in.
(June 24, 2014 at 8:01 am)Rhythm Wrote: I prefer abrasive.
You know, in reading the two of you's back and forth it's occurred to me that perhaps considering morality as standard based and law as outcome based would tease apart any issues where entanglement of the two makes it seem like two contradictory statements could be equally valid. A problem of composition, non overlapping and all that.
I think this exchange should be moved to another thread, what do you say?
This should be about abortion, not morality in general
Um no, how humans come to the conclusions they make affect every decision they make and how they view the world so you cant say that one topic is more important than another topic. I brought up morality because the anti abortion side has based that position on their own morality.
This pushing for a utopia in a diverse and complex species is exactly what makes us divided, and not just on the issue of abortion.
This is the same problem I have with utopia vegans and vegetarians who think it is possible to get 7 billion humans to never eat any sort of other animal life despite our omnivore evolution.
I think everyone should want to improve the human condition, but trying to push a personal utopia on a complex diverse species is absurd.
(June 24, 2014 at 8:30 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Do you think I'm not on your side here Brian?
Sides is not the issue. Bad use of logic is.
If one is going to call abortion murder, then be logically consistent about it. A girl/women to get one has to have a pre meditated thought to even want one. Then she has to act on that thought and seek out a doctor. The doctor is not the only person involved in that act.
When two guys rob someone for their wallet, one guy might come up with the idea, they both go along with it, one ends up murdering the victim. Most of the time in law, even if one does not have the intent of murder, BOTH will be charged with murder.
Now again, be logically consistent and answer me this right now. WHAT SHOULD BE THE PUNISHMENT FOR THE GIRL/WOMAN?
