(June 24, 2014 at 9:47 pm)Arthur123 Wrote: Julia I have been arguing that you must put fetus' into the category of human beings because it is the only consistent application of the definitional, and organizational concept of human beings.Thank you for responding. I can now stop yelling at my monitor.
I have been arguing that your application of the terms 'fetus and 'human being' are in opposition to commonly accepted definitions of the terms whatever you may think is the 'only consistent application' of these concepts. If you are arguing only your personal mind on the topic, we will simply agree to disagree.
Quote: As Dr. Dianne Irving puts it, "the issue is not when does human life begin, but rather when does the life of every human being begin. A human kidney or liver, a human skin cell, a sperm or an oocyte all possess human life, but they are not human beings - they are only parts of a human being. If a single sperm or a single oocyte were implanted into a woman's uterus, they would simply rot. They would not grow as human embryos or human fetuses who are human beings."But my counter examples (cloned stem cell or split blastula cell) would not 'simply rot.' They would develop into adult humans just as would a fertilized egg. They are functionally equivalent to the fertilized egg. For your position to be consistent, you must show why they should not be granted the same 'human being' status you want for the egg.
Quote:And Dr. C. Ward Fisher, "Let’s frame the issue: in human sexual reproduction, when conception [or fertilization] occursTo the best of current knowledge, the continuum of life was only initiated one time something around 3.5 billion years ago.
the continuum of life is initiated.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?
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