Abortion is morally wrong

[The Valkyrie]

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Julia I have been arguing that you must put fetus' into the category of human beings because it is the only consistent application of the definitional, and organizational concept of human beings. As for your rebut, I believe I responded to that here:


Julia, thanks so much for joining the discussion! I believe there is an inherent difference between a zygote and a toenail cell. One is a part of a human being while the other is an actual human being. As Dr. Dianne Irving puts it, "the issue is not when does human life begin, but rather when does the life of every human being begin. A human kidney or liver, a human skin cell, a sperm or an oocyte all possess human life, but they are not human beings - they are only parts of a human being. If a single sperm or a single oocyte were implanted into a woman's uterus, they would simply rot. They would not grow as human embryos or human fetuses who are human beings."

And Dr. C. Ward Fisher, "Let’s frame the issue: in human sexual reproduction, when conception [or fertilization] occurs
the continuum of life is initiated. There must be a moment of time at which the time continuum of life begins.
For all these reasons among others, I believe the strength of my argument stands...Biologically, then,first contact
is the event from which all else will follow. There is no point beyond that at which development is suspended or held in abeyance." Stated similarly in Alexander Prus' metaphysical principle, if an organism who once existed has never died than this organism still exists. There i biological continuity between me and my fetus and since I am a human it follows that so is a fetus. This genetically complete, whole, human organism directing its own growth and genetic future in an unbreaking chain of growth is nothing like that of a toenail cell that can be harnessed and experimented with to clone a human being. My definition does not rest on potentialities but actualities and ontology.

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By the way, I just want to thank everyone for their responses even though I am a Christian and believe differently from most of you for the most part I have been treated kindly and with respect

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Dr. R.J. Anderson: "The question certainly isn't when life begins or even human life begins. The question is when does a growing cluster of cells, an embryo, or fetus, become an actual human? Is it at conception, in the first or second trimester? Or is it when it is truly viable outside the mother's body, when it can survive without her own biological system? I, for one, would suggest that it is precisely at that time when it becomes truly human, and more than a "parasite" dependant on the life of another for it's survival. Then is when it is deserving of protection."