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The Baha'i Faith
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RE: The Baha'i Faith
(June 26, 2014 at 4:15 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I have a lot of respect for all religions. I think there's a lot to learn and to be gained from all of them. I also think atheism is valuable, and animism.

Baha'i believe that all religions are true but don't believe that Jesus was God : then you don't believe that Christianity is true then. I've always found that an amusing stance.

If you read my previous posts, they say that Baha'is believe that differences arise because of the believers, not because of the Manifestations. From the Baha'i perspective, Christianity is very much a true religion, Christians have just picked up a lot of theological baggage along the way that has little to do with what Jesus actually taught. They took the statements made by Jesus that He was the Son of God, and a statement He made where He spoke as if He were God, to mean that He was in fact God. Muhammad, however, often spoke as if He were God. But it was God speaking through Him. It was the same with past Prophets. Baha'is believe it is the same with Jesus. As for His statements saying that He was the Son, Baha'is take look at that two fold: on the one hand, we agree with Christianity and Islam that Jesus was born of a virgin. The Gospels say that it was through the power of the Holy Spirit, and the Quran says God said "Be" and Christ was in the womb. In this way, He is God's Son, since He was created directly. But we also believe that it has to do with His station. Baha'is believe that every Manifestation has their own station, and that Jesus' was that of the Son.

(June 26, 2014 at 4:21 am)Marsellus Wallace Wrote:
(June 26, 2014 at 3:59 am)zanOTK Wrote: No. Baha'is do not believe in Heaven and Hell as literal places. We believe they are metaphors for nearness and distance from God. And we believe that even if someone rejects a Manifestation (or ALL of them), as long as they do not reject the Light of God (that Light being everything we describe as good, whether we ascribe it to God or not) they are near to God. So, as long as you're not a douchebag, you'll probably have a decent afterlife. We also believe it is possible to move closer to God after you've died, so even those that find themselves in a bad afterlife can move into higher planes. It's just harder to do there than it is here.

Then practically speaking, why the hell are you wasting your time in this nonsense ? why don't you just live your life normally with no religion?

Because I believe it to be true. I'm not in it for a reward.
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The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 12:38 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Muslim Atheism - June 26, 2014 at 12:45 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 1:09 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Sejanus - June 26, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Muslim Atheism - June 26, 2014 at 7:13 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Sejanus - June 26, 2014 at 12:47 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Marsellus Wallace - June 26, 2014 at 1:36 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 2:08 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Sejanus - June 26, 2014 at 2:19 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 2:32 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Whateverist - June 26, 2014 at 2:43 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 3:31 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Whateverist - June 26, 2014 at 9:19 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 9:45 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Whateverist - June 26, 2014 at 10:31 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Muslim Atheism - June 26, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 3:40 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 3:59 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Marsellus Wallace - June 26, 2014 at 4:21 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Marsellus Wallace - June 26, 2014 at 3:55 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 4:15 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 4:21 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 4:46 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 4:51 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 5:06 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Marsellus Wallace - June 26, 2014 at 5:31 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 6:01 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 6:25 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 6:27 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Mudhammam - June 26, 2014 at 7:12 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 8:18 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Mudhammam - June 26, 2014 at 9:09 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 27, 2014 at 7:53 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Muslim Atheism - June 26, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - June 26, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 27, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Whateverist - June 28, 2014 at 1:30 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 28, 2014 at 1:41 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Marsellus Wallace - June 26, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by vodkafan - June 26, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by vodkafan - June 28, 2014 at 8:08 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 28, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Ksa - June 29, 2014 at 4:08 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 29, 2014 at 4:13 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Ksa - June 29, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 29, 2014 at 11:16 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 12:19 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 30, 2014 at 1:15 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 1:22 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 30, 2014 at 7:55 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 8:02 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 30, 2014 at 8:31 am
The Baha'i Faith - by Bibliofagus - June 30, 2014 at 8:11 am
The Baha'i Faith - by Bibliofagus - June 30, 2014 at 8:58 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 30, 2014 at 9:35 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Bibliofagus - June 30, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 8:07 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by vodkafan - June 30, 2014 at 5:23 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 8:32 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 8:46 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 8:21 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 8:45 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 8:51 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:01 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 9:10 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:12 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:17 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 9:17 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:43 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:50 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 10:03 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 10:06 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 10:12 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 10:29 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 10:30 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 10:06 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 10:31 am

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