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The Baha'i Faith
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RE: The Baha'i Faith
(June 30, 2014 at 1:22 am)Rhythm Wrote:
Quote:I cannot tell you that you were not "created" (born. I'm assuming, correct me if I'm wrong, that you weren't formed by God directly) to be a servant of God. To be honest, I don't see your point. As a servant of God, I am a servant of man. That's what Baha'is are told, the highest form of worship is service to our fellow man. And, according to the Faith, we were created to "know and worship" God. Since service to our fellow man is the highest form of worship, then we were created to serve our fellow man. I see no issue here.
The issue is one of principle...because principle has a way of shaping our actions and what we will accept in our lives as tolerable. Does it not? The service to your fellow man, to me, seems to be a flowery phrase hiding an ugly truth. You are serving god, period (man is just an intermediary). I'm fine with that, but to imply or directly state that I (or any other) was created to be a servant legitimizes the notion that there is such a thing as a "born servant". That we have a place. That our purpose has been decided by another and that this purpose is servitude to that other. That doesn't strike you as a possible issue? Are you serving man legitimizing the masters rights over the human chattel?

I do not see it that way. Because, unlike the masters you compare Him too, God isn't sending anyone to chase after the servants that say something along the lines of "fuck Him" and leave, nor is He punishing the ones that come back afterwards. Simply put, it doesn't matter what you were born to do. Because you don't have to do it.

Anyway, did you read my opening post? This thread isn't here to try to convert anyone or convince anyone that I'm right. It was for a conversation with Pickup_shonuff, in order to answer some questions he had. I happily answered the questions of a few others along the way, but I don't appreciate people issuing me challenges or acting like I've issued a challenge when I haven't done anything of the sort. Continue to disbelieve as you wish, and don't worry about what I believe.
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The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 12:38 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Muslim Atheism - June 26, 2014 at 12:45 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 1:09 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Sejanus - June 26, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Muslim Atheism - June 26, 2014 at 7:13 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Sejanus - June 26, 2014 at 12:47 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Marsellus Wallace - June 26, 2014 at 1:36 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 2:08 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Sejanus - June 26, 2014 at 2:19 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 2:32 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Whateverist - June 26, 2014 at 2:43 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 3:31 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Whateverist - June 26, 2014 at 9:19 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 9:45 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Whateverist - June 26, 2014 at 10:31 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Muslim Atheism - June 26, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 3:40 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 3:59 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Marsellus Wallace - June 26, 2014 at 4:21 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Marsellus Wallace - June 26, 2014 at 3:55 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 4:15 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 4:21 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 4:46 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 4:51 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 5:06 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Marsellus Wallace - June 26, 2014 at 5:31 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 6:01 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 6:25 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 6:27 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Mudhammam - June 26, 2014 at 7:12 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 26, 2014 at 8:18 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Mudhammam - June 26, 2014 at 9:09 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 27, 2014 at 7:53 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Muslim Atheism - June 26, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - June 26, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 27, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Whateverist - June 28, 2014 at 1:30 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 28, 2014 at 1:41 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Marsellus Wallace - June 26, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by vodkafan - June 26, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by vodkafan - June 28, 2014 at 8:08 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 28, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Ksa - June 29, 2014 at 4:08 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 29, 2014 at 4:13 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Ksa - June 29, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 29, 2014 at 11:16 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 12:19 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 30, 2014 at 1:15 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 1:22 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 30, 2014 at 7:55 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 8:02 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 30, 2014 at 8:31 am
The Baha'i Faith - by Bibliofagus - June 30, 2014 at 8:11 am
The Baha'i Faith - by Bibliofagus - June 30, 2014 at 8:58 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - June 30, 2014 at 9:35 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Bibliofagus - June 30, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 8:07 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by vodkafan - June 30, 2014 at 5:23 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 8:32 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 8:46 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 8:21 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 8:45 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 8:51 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:01 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 9:10 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:12 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:17 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 9:17 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:43 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:50 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 10:03 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 10:06 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 10:12 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 10:29 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 10:30 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by FatAndFaithless - July 9, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by logicalreason - July 9, 2014 at 10:06 am
RE: The Baha'i Faith - by zanOTK - July 9, 2014 at 10:31 am

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