RE: 3 Questions For Believers (A work in progress.)
June 30, 2014 at 10:18 pm
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2014 at 10:22 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 30, 2014 at 10:02 pm)Lek Wrote: Okay. I'll just say that after coming to know how God works in our lives, I reinterpreted the flat tire experience based on my newfound knowledge. It's analogous to my decision that what I saw earlier in my life was actually an electric car, based on my newfound knowledge that they manufacture electric cars.I get that, what I'm trying to explain to you is that your newfound knowledge is not sufficient for a firm conclusion. IOW, even if there were electric cars (or gods) the reasons you've given do not seem adequate for concluding that any particular electric car(or god) was present at any point in your experience. It's not a very robust proposition. It falls apart before we can even squeeze it.
Quote:I wasn't trying to insinuate that you're not sincere in your lack of belief. I'm saying that, in general, if I see a person living an exemplary life, I'd be interested in what that person believes and what motivates him to live that way. If he didn't give me scientific proof for what he believes, I wouldn't automatically dismiss it on that ground. His life is already supporting evidence for what he tells me.-and I'm just trying to get you to follow through with what must follow from this statement - if you look at my life. How my life (or the existence of people like me, or how I describe myself) would modify your claim. My life, by your own reasoning - would be supporting evidence for what I;m telling you, which is no god.....
Or would it?
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Quote:Same here. I haven't performed any scientific experiments or researched scientific journals looking for physical evidence of a supernatural God. Like I stated earlier, I have little doubts every so often as I think most christians (and atheists) do. I can sit and wait for more evidence or I can take that leap. I'm convinced I've made the right move. If you're right and I'm wrong, I'll end up in a state of non-existence in which I won't know or care.I'll say this again..but only this last time. I'm not commenting on whether or not you are right, or I am right about gods. I'm trying to explain to you that -if- you are right..it isn't for any of the reasons you've given.....that this (and not god) is what you are "wrong" about. Not your conclusions, the manner in which you claim to have reached them.
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