RE: Abortion is morally wrong
July 1, 2014 at 9:25 pm
(This post was last modified: July 1, 2014 at 9:33 pm by Dystopia.)
(July 1, 2014 at 9:15 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:(July 1, 2014 at 8:47 pm)Losty Wrote: The harm is that if you allow a doctor to refuse treatment for religious reasons then you have to allow all doctors to refuse treatment for all religious reasons. Maybe the next doctor will refuse to perform an emergency c section because the mother isn't married and premarital sex is against his religion.
If we start allowing doctors to object to procedures based on their own religious beliefs, what happens to the car crash victim that needs a blood transfusion and is being treated by a devout Jehova's Witness?!?
Simply put, if you can't leave your superstitions at the door, find a new profession!
Like I already said, objections are allowed if there is no significant harm done. If a life is at stake, there are no possible objections. Objections are possible when there are alternative methods to reach the same result.
(July 1, 2014 at 9:24 pm)Losty Wrote:(July 1, 2014 at 9:03 pm)blackout94 Wrote: Using the slippery slope argument is just as valid as saying gay marriage shouldn't be allowed because polygamy, marrying animals and marrying children would come next. It is never a sufficient argument and is mostly used as a fallacy. Each case is a case and should be given appropriate treatment. Comparison alone isn't enough to prove anything. You still haven't justified why doctors should be forced to violate their principles by performing an abortion, you just made comparisons and conjectures, saying that other situations would be unbearably allowed. I'm still waiting for the answer. Isn't the most important principle in a doctor's ethic the right to live? If so, then what's more important, treating a mother to avoid an unwanted child, or avoid killing a fetus (if the doctor considers abortion killing)? You already know the answer.
Seriously. That's where you're going to go with this? It is not the same. Not even close. Doctors have a responsibility to treat patients. Doctors have an obligation to put their personal issues on the back burner and do their fucking jobs. Don't like it? Don't be a doctor. I'm not even going to dicuss gay marriage or slippery slopes with you because you're obviously an idiot.
You lost all credibility by insulting me. I'm not an idiot, I am right, have you studied fundamental rights or fundamental law, human rights? You obviously haven't, because if you did study it deeply, you'd know forcing citizens to go against their personal beliefs when there is no harm in it is something called fascism, AKA dictatorship. I'm quitting discussing because you seem to refuse to see my side and my points, the fact you insulted me just shows your lack or arguments. You are so right that your opinion directly conflicts with the Declaration of human rights.
This is not a matter of belief, a doctor considering abortion murder is directly related with the article saying a doctors duty is to protect life. A doctor interprets it this way, it is a possible interpretation, most laws don't have a single unanimous interpretation, nor they should have because that would make the law completely static (This doesn't mean all words can be infinitely interpreted as people see fit, there are parameters)
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