RE: Abortion is morally wrong
July 2, 2014 at 12:24 pm
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2014 at 12:26 pm by Dystopia.)
(July 2, 2014 at 10:51 am)Clueless Morgan Wrote:(July 1, 2014 at 2:47 pm)blackout94 Wrote: I'm not saying all pro lifers agree with these 3 exceptions
Except that you did in the post I was responding to:
Post #502 on page 51 of this thread:
Quote:Well it's still a though question to decide when we can consider an unborn child a human, this is why I can't take a position. I'll be pro choice, then, sounds more reasonable. I think all pro lifers will agree with me that any women should be able to abort in case of rape, life endangering or malformation of the fetus, these are cases that even anti abortion legislation allow frequently since they are the exception and not the norm.
Which was the line I bolded in my post and the whole reason I even responded to it. You said that you thought ALL pro-lifers would agree that there should be rape, life-endangerment and malformation exceptions to abortion bans and I demonstrated that ALL pro-lifers definitely DO NOT agree with you.
Quote:Even my girlfriend, a militant pro lifer agrees perfectly that these 3 exceptions should be allowed.
Your girlfriend is not representative of all pro-lifers.
Before you make absolute claims like "all of [anybody] says or does [X]" do a little research, or be more cautious and use words like "many" or "most" instead of "all."
Quote:One thing everybody should remember is that there is always a general rule AND exceptions, exceptions exist because they are different cases that require different treatment
Try explaining this to Todd Akin.
Sometimes I just use the wrong words. Sorry if I offended you. What I meant is even a pro lifer that thinks abortion is wrong should agree that those 3 situations are exceptions, even countries (the example of portugal) where abortion was illegal in the past allowed these exceptions. Let me rephrase it - A reasonable pro life will agree that there are exceptions. I simply used the words wrongly, I didn't literally mean there aren't some nutjobs that think women shouldn't abort even if they got raped. As for the general rule V exceptions, exceptions exist because the situations that fit the general rule are not equal. The classical example is murder - Murder is taking the life of another person, putting it simply, but it I do it in self defense, it is an exception because the situation is different.
(July 2, 2014 at 10:53 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(July 2, 2014 at 9:24 am)bennyboy Wrote: My wife recently had an abortion here in Korea. Her regular doctor wouldn't do it, because she's Christian. Although it was a little inconvenient, I completely respect the right of a doctor to decide what constitutes the greater good, or what level of harm is acceptable, etc.
Because people think differently about it.
Was your 'regular doctor' even qualified to perform abortions? OB/GYN's are the docs that perform abortions, if they have some compunction about abortion they shouldn't specialize in an area that is dedicated almost exclusively to womens' sexual health.
Fatanfaitless you made a really good point, doctors that aren't fine with abortion shouldn't have determined specializations. That solves the problem.
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