RE: Do Christians really believe most of us are going to hell?
July 3, 2014 at 5:59 pm
(This post was last modified: July 3, 2014 at 6:00 pm by Simon Moon.)
(July 1, 2014 at 7:46 pm)Lek Wrote: I've been researching this for awhile and lean one direction, but I'm not totally sure because there's evidence in the bible for both views.
Yeah. Isn't that convenient?
The book is so vague, you get to pick whatever you want to believe.
Quote:One possibility is that people who die as unbelievers will go to hell for an appropriate time and will then be annihilated.
If true, still an immoral system.
Quote:Another view, which I lean to more, is that those people will go to hell for a time and will eventually come to faith in Christ and will spend eternity with God.
So why send us to hell in the first place?
If this is true, then whatever time we spend in hell, no matter how long, is nothing compared to an eternity. In effect, there would by no difference. An eternity that starts after some finite time in hell, is still an eternity.
Quote:The bible states that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. If most people don't end up being saved, that seems like wasted atonement to me.
Another immoral system.
A substitutionary sacrifice is immoral. Especially considering god could have just forgive us without it.
"I set up the rules knowing you were going to break them, thus condemning you before you are even born. But hey, I got it! I'll sacrifice myself to myself as a loophole to get you out of being condemned by me for breaking my rules. Genius!".
Quote:If most people don't end up being saved, that seems like wasted atonement to me. Although God can be loving by ending our misery, I think that universal reconciliation points to a loving God and it gives a correctional purpose to hell. I don't know if the majority of people will go to to hell or not, but it appears that way today. I just can't get into peoples heart's and minds. I can't know the nature of their relationship with God.
There's so much wrong with the above, I don't think I can even unpack it.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
