RE: Abortion is morally wrong
July 3, 2014 at 9:53 pm
(This post was last modified: July 3, 2014 at 9:56 pm by Losty.)
(July 3, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(July 3, 2014 at 9:40 pm)Losty Wrote: My question is, why do you think a doctor being required to save a dying patient would ever mean waiving their rights? They're not legally required to be doctors. They have a right to quit their job. Do you think requiring Christian strippers to strip is a violation of their rights?It''s trivially easy for me to imagine such a scenario. I've done it in this thread. No, they're not legally required to be doctors - but they don;t simply waive their rights -by becoming doctors-. I think that stripping, as a christian, is a violation of ones own religious values - but who cares? There aren't exactly rights strictly delineated about when/where/why someone can take off or put back on articles of clothing.
I thought we were discussing religious freedom. What right is being waived by requiring doctors to save their patients?
Quote:Quote:I'm sorry, love, you're going to have to dumb it down for me because I don't think I understand what you're trying to say.If we insist that doctors somehow can waive (or should waive) their rights for the priveledge of being a doctor we have little ground to claim that another person may not waive another right (my slavery example) for the exact same reason. Rights are foundational, fundamental to law. Everything flows from them. I'm not interested in special pleading, or discretional application - when it comes to rights. We either have them or we don't. They are either "sacrosanct" or they are not. All of them, together - for the same reasons...and lets make em good ones.
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Maybe liberty is a right, and religious expression is just a strongly worded suggestion (or vice versa).
Better?
Yes but if we call liberty a right we need to define liberty as something other than freedom. Otherwise everything is a right. Right?
(July 3, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'm trying to point out that some posters are treating one right differently then they are treating other rights. That in this thread - religious expression can be (and ought to be) waived by doctors...but no one is willing to entertain the man who waives his rights and sells himself into slavery. Better?
Yes, I now understand what you're saying. Hmm...I have to think about that one I guess. I don't have a good response for that hehe
