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Islam, the Materialistic Religion
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RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion
(July 9, 2014 at 2:34 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote: I'm not sure I understand the use of all this. Are you planning to convince muslims of your point of view?

If so: what's the use?
Why not focus on 'misinterpretations' of the quran that are actually harmfull to people? Like the shit on gays, unbelievers etc, stuff that is actually negatively impacting peoples lives? You appear to be rooting for losing the supernatural, while keeping the rules the quran lays out.

No I am just having fun with this realization. It has been tickling me ever since I noticed it. I just want to point out the absurdity of the Qur'an and the overall Islamic positions on matters. Islam actually is knee deep in materialism.
For example, nowhere does the spirit become separate from the body. The concepts of a spirit is added on through a few hadiths and Sufi teachings. When a person dies int he Qur'an it is merely an inversion of matter.
The person dies in this world but gets reincarnated into the other world. There is no soul, no metaphysical spirit and no floating minds.

al-An'am 60: "And it is He who takes your souls by night and knows what you have committed by day. Then He revives you therein that a specified term may be fulfilled. Then to Him will be your return; then He will inform you about what you used to do."
"وَهُوَ الَّذِىۡ يَتَوَفّٰٮكُمۡ بِالَّيۡلِ وَ يَعۡلَمُ مَا جَرَحۡتُمۡ بِالنَّهَارِ ثُمَّ يَـبۡعَثُكُمۡ فِيۡهِ لِيُقۡضٰٓى اَجَلٌ مُّسَمًّى‌ۚ ثُمَّ اِلَيۡهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ ثُمَّ يُنَبِّئُكُمۡ بِمَا كُنۡتُمۡ تَعۡمَلُوۡنَ".

Essentially it is metempsychosis at it's finest example. The notion of spirits is very dulled down and the concept of miracles is nothing but natural events. Islam is a perfect example of the God of the Gaps. The Arabs knew very little and began inserting god into everything.

(July 9, 2014 at 2:34 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote: Why not focus on 'misinterpretations' of the quran that are actually harmfull to people? Like the shit on gays, unbelievers etc, stuff that is actually negatively impacting peoples lives? You appear to be rooting for losing the supernatural, while keeping the rules the quran lays out.

I am not rooting for any such thing. I am simply pointing out that Muhammad was very ignorant of how the world is. The Qur'an can burn for all I care because it is just a concept behind it and a lot of it has to do with politics and ethics which are fine with me. This god crap has got to go though. If the Qur'an posits forth a god that is no more different than nature then I am unimpressed. Muhammad made an attempt at something which is fine and dandy but his "was once" good deeds have spawned murderous death cults which I like yourself have no interests in.
I am only trying to point out that Islam is nothing but a failure. What I recommend for all religions to do is to drop the metaphysical baggage and start focusing on something productive which religions can provide.

Community, ritualism(mental masturbation as I like to call it Big Grin), ethical systems, and peace. The religions we have now are just outdated. Atheists have Humanism for example. Tis a perfect modern and successful religion.

I do agree with certain things Islam proposes. I am very big on modesty, community(jama'ah as I used to call it), ethics(like alcohol and dietary habits etc) and wife beating(lol). All of these things have a logical basis and are fine, nothing wrong with these things EXCEPT FOR THE LATTER!
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Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by Rabb Allah - July 8, 2014 at 9:12 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by Rabb Allah - July 8, 2014 at 9:55 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by Rabb Allah - July 9, 2014 at 3:56 am
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by Welsh cake - July 9, 2014 at 2:04 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by Rabb Allah - July 9, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by Bibliofagus - July 9, 2014 at 2:34 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by Rabb Allah - July 9, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by WinterHold - July 12, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by Rabb Allah - July 12, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by Rabb Allah - July 12, 2014 at 7:55 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by WinterHold - July 14, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by WinterHold - July 15, 2014 at 5:37 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by WinterHold - July 16, 2014 at 2:08 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by WinterHold - July 17, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by WinterHold - July 17, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by jesus_wept - July 21, 2014 at 4:40 am
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by Rabb Allah - July 22, 2014 at 5:57 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by jesus_wept - July 23, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by Rabb Allah - July 23, 2014 at 11:44 am
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by JesusHChrist - July 22, 2014 at 6:40 pm
RE: Islam, the Materialistic Religion - by Rabb Allah - July 22, 2014 at 8:27 pm

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