Q about arguments for God's existence.

[Lek]

Why do I have to keep repeating this over and over? How about the Soviet Union, China, North Korea, and Cambodia. I've only mentioned these examples a zillion times before. I'd suggest starting in North Korea.

Pop quizz! How many of those places are doing what they did for atheism? And not, say, for some other, politically motivated reason that finds its source in an unconnected topic?

So, blaming that on atheism would roughly be the same as blaming a murder that happened in an argument over an affair on christianity, because the murderer was a christian. Do you often completely ignore the real motivations of acts when it's convenient to you, Lek?

Oh, and don't bore us all by saying we do the same thing: the Crusades and a lot of the other examples we bring up were specifically religiously motivated.

You guys always go back to that argument, but when I bring up the same argument for Hitler and others, you attempt to tear it down. Who cares what reason people use to accomplish their means? Nationalism has been used as an excuse for imperialism forever. Does that mean that we should abolish all all nations or that all nations are evil? If a tyrannical dictator wants to accomplish his aims, he will use whatever means he feels will work. These communist leaders were and are convinced that people of faith are standing in the way of their plan for total control over the masses. I thought that becoming atheist put one above this type of mentality. I always hear that christianity is evil because of all the bad things that were done in its name. It's a bogus argument for defaming christianity.