Malaysian airlines plane shot down over Ukraine

[Fidel_Castronaut]

The Media appears to be siding with the idea that it was the russians (nothing to read into there without evidence).

The separatists are incredibly well armed being effectively an extension of the Russian army. They've also shot down a number of Ukrainian air craft over recent days and weeks. A rebel commander supposedly posted a twitter message today saying they'd shot an aircraft down, but it was deleted soon after:

All speculation though. Just hope that something can be found out before either side dominates the site and could be accused of removing the evidence.