The Image Problem With Atheism in America

[Bad Wolf]

All historians...it's simple facts. I have not heard of one single historian disagreeing with that premise.

Really? Then where is the link? Where is the evidence?

They compared all the wars throughout history and shifted through the damages those wars caused and the rationale for those wars being waged.

No they didn't, you know how I know they didn't? because it would be impossible. In the 2000 years that xianity has been around, they have not recorded every witch burning, every stoning, every lynching, every murder ever committed for religious reasons. They haven't because they couldn't because it would be practically impossible to do. Whereas in the modern day, we can record everything that happens, we know how many people died in the all the wars, we know what fallen regimes did to their civilians, we know how people died.

If you're trying to gain moral high ground over the religious, you're going about it the wrong way.

You really don't get my point do you? I challenged you on your assertion that atheist atrocities were worse than theist ones, because I know that its a ridiculous statement to make and impossible to back up with evidence. I don't, for one second, believe the opposite is true (that theists have done worse than atheists) simply because I would't be justified in believing that because there is not enough evidence.

It's logical because religion has an incentive for people to agree with staying in line lacking in non-religious societies. A fear of damnation does a lot to incentivize the people to follow suit.

Oh really? Well, why didn't this fear of damnation prevent all the stonings? All the witch burnings? All the crusades? Oh wait! I know! Because their holy book, specifically tells them to do these things. I agree with you, its perfectly logical that a fear of hell would make people behave, however, it simply isn't the reality we live in.

Who says homosexuality is not a choice?

People who don't understand science.

You just live in a society that frowns upon homosexuality.

Really? Which society is that? Do you even know where I live?

"Oh no, a few Moslems kill people, so I am going to be a hick towards them all regardless of who they are."

Oh look, misrepresenting me again, what is this? The third time? The sentence you just said is an example of Islamaphobia. Hating someone because they are muslim, regardless of who they are. I do not do this. I hate their religion. There is a difference between a religion and the people of that religion. I hate the activities of the bad muslims, this doesn't mean I hate all muslims. I think you are doing this on purpose because it would be so much easier for you to dismiss me as an islamaphobe than actually consider my position.

Remind me how you are different than those Fundies you people like to whine about... Less stupid? No. Less culturally ignorant? No. Less stereotypically American? No.

Oh this is sweet, this is so sweet. Want to know why? I'll give you a hint. I'm not American.

You can be an extremist regardless of your religious beliefs. Many of the extremists out there aren't even religious. The comment about the ISIS was about how easily cajoled and conned you can be into doing the evil bidding of others....you come off as one who would be easy to manipulate as in a cult. Your extremism is your inability to stop acting like a warhawk Yank like those Southerners with signs like "The South will Rise Again", yee haw.

Your reading comprehension is awful, I know this now and will try to put my words in simpler terms for your benefit.
Firstly, you know why ISIS members can be cajoled into doing the evil bidding of others? Because those 'others' claim to be spreading the message of their particular god. These ISIS members have been indoctrinated since birth to believe that their religion is the one true religion and that there is no greater honour than to die for their religion. They will be rewarded in death. Sound familiar? That because it is exactly the same as your religion.

Secondly, since i'm a skeptic, a free thinker, a humanist, free of religious indoctrination, I take issue with your assertion that I would be easy to manipulate in a cult. I assess every situation I find myself in using my own thoughts and knowledge. I actually think about what i'm doing unlike cult members.

Thirdly, you have evaded my question again. I'm an extremist because I act like a 'warhawk Yank'? How exactly does a 'warhawk yank' act like? What are their beliefs and how do they act upon them?