RE: should america support Israel?
August 9, 2014 at 6:18 am
(This post was last modified: August 9, 2014 at 6:32 am by little_monkey.)
(August 8, 2014 at 8:48 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(August 8, 2014 at 11:20 am)little_monkey Wrote: It's stupid to you as you're not smart enough to understand. It's your problem. Deal with it.
No, killing in the name of peace is like fucking in the name of virginity.
Maybe in your little brain, that is equivalent but it isn't.
Quote:If you're so brainwashed you cannot see that basic fact -- if you're so brainwashed that the only thing you can think of is "kill the wabbit, kill the wabbit" -- then that's your business. Don't think you'll get a free pass to spew propaganda without challenge.
Of course ignore the part where I said the bombings is a tactical measure to bring about permanent peace.
Quote:Me, I think there's got to be a way to resolve it without killing millions, or engaging in carpet-bombing. Do I know what it is yet? No.
And anyone who could have a solution, tear that one down. Great thinking, genius.
Quote:But I do know that if I refuse to consider any other possibility (as you are doing here) then that leaves killing as the only option. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results."
That's your preference. Live with the criticism.
If you had a better option you would be in a position to criticize. But since you've admitted you don't have, and in the meantime the war rages on, and more people are being killed by the day, which in the end could result into far more casualties than the solution I'm proposing - your cricitism has little validity.
Quote:(August 8, 2014 at 11:20 am)little_monkey Wrote: Your point clearly indicated to me that you do not consider the Palestinians smart enough. You didn't use those words but you clearly, unconsciously implied that.
Clearly you have substandard reading skills, given your inability to distinguish between "cultural" and "ethnic" matters, and I don't doubt for a moment you're projecting your own internal hatred of Palestinians, whom you'd like to kill by the millions, upon someone else in the hopes of distracting readers from your obvious ethnic hatred.
Whether you attribute to cultural or ethnic matters, the bottom line is you think that Palestinians aren't smart enough. The real person who is biased and racist is YOU.
Secondly I bear no hate towards the Palestinians as I have absolutely no reason to have such hate. My position comes solely from logic, not emotions as in your case that blinds you from getting to a real solution.
(August 8, 2014 at 10:24 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(August 8, 2014 at 7:56 pm)A Theist Wrote: Israel is at war with Hamas, not with the Palestinians. Although the Palestinians do embrace Hamas and give them sanctuary. The Palestinians also allow Hamas to headquarter and to fire missiles into Israel from their neighborhoods. Neither is Hamas fighting with kerosene powered fireworks. They're firing missiles into Israel, and Israel responds. If the Palestinians want to avoid their own casualties from Israeli air-raids, then they need to stop giving support to Hamas and throw them out.
You imply that Hamas are not right to attempt to attack Israel. What if a newly-strong Asia, headed by China, decided to establish a Mexican nation in the middle of the US? Isn't it true that one group's monstrous terrorists are its neighbors' freedom fighters?
Benny, if Hamas wants to continue this war, which has been going on since 1948, it's their prerogative, but then accept the misery that war brings along. Don't come home to mama and complain. The other problem is that by stationing their "freedom fighters" among the civilians, there will be large collateral damage, and Hamas is counting on that to win the propaganda war. And that makes Hamas responsible for those casualities, not Israel which has no option but to defend itself. Hamas has a choice: continue their armed struggle or lay down their arms. The second option is the only option for the possibility of a permanent peace.
(August 9, 2014 at 4:52 am)Oldm8 Wrote: little_monkey
Regular people who would normally support Israel are beginning to question.
"I have no doubt that many fools fall for the propaganda Hamas along with Al Jazeera are putting out."
Could be replaced with,
I have no doubt that many fools fall for the propaganda IDF and their mouthpieces in USA are putting out.
My point exactly we are ALL, you included, kept in the dark and fed bullshit.
Perhaps you are in the dark, but there is such a thing as knowledge that can take you out of the darkness. As it turns out my knowledge of the history in the ME is quite steep. So my suggestion to you is take the time and trouble to get yourself educated in the facts concerning this problem before making comments based on some superficial knowledge you may have on the subject.