(August 11, 2014 at 5:11 am)bennyboy Wrote:(August 11, 2014 at 3:56 am)Esquilax Wrote: In the case of abortion stuff, every pro-life argument relies on some form of logical fallacy or disregard for the factual case, in order to function.
That's not true. The argument is that personal identity begins with fertilization of an egg. That's not a logical fallacy-- it's just drawing a different line in the sand than others do.
That's why I added in that bit about the factual case:all of the evidence we possess points to the idea that the mind is an emergent property of the brain, and at the point of conception there is no brain, and hence no mind. Thus, in order to claim that one's identity begins at conception, you would need to disregard the evidence we have in biology.
Quote:Anyway I don't think any SHOULD argument "maps to reality," because should implies a value, and no value is intrinsically real. I think "maps to reality" is a way of saying that morals are objective, without having to go through the fail of actually arguing that morals are objective.
Morals aren't objective, but the values we use to determine morals are; living is preferable to dying, pain is bad, etc etc.
Besides, when I said "maps to reality," I was discussing the factual and logical structures of the argument. Specifically, the pro-life case disregards large swathes of biological science in order to reach its conclusion, and doesn't map to reality because of that.
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