RE: A question about the love of god
August 11, 2014 at 11:01 am
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2014 at 11:09 am by The Grand Nudger.)
LOL, he doesn't know, he just wanted to troll and it sounded workable. Business as usual. Meanwhile, the adults will continue to have a conversation.
Rex, that would seem to be the case. Their lack of understanding leads to a sort of fugue state whereby any framework that can accomodate the observed phenoma couldn't rightly be called -wholly- irrational (IOW, they weren't dumb - they just started out with a premise that ended up not panning out). If we used the word spirit today to refer to germs, sans all the stuff about who sends them and how they could be removed- it wouldn't really impede our ability to produce modern medicine. This is, of course, what we see with early medicines. Some of them actually worked, even though the people who leveraged them thought that a spirit was the vehicle for that work (in the case of balm in gilead, for example). Considering sickness to be a "foul vapor" can yield results - and those results in turn might suggest to a person that their explanation is adequate. We can sometimes "get it right" for the "wrong reasons". This might account for the prevalence and persistence of such beliefs across the globe- and it's easy to see why they would make their way into both the OT and the NT. Disease and illness have been with us for as long as there has been an "us". Any all-encompassing view of the world would have to include them, or it would run the risk of failing to explain a significant portion of our experience.
-and yes, it does have to be pointed out to people that there are no demons, when those people express very clearly that there -are- demons, and it's clear that this idea has somehow informed their conclusions. Garbage in, garbage out.
Rex, that would seem to be the case. Their lack of understanding leads to a sort of fugue state whereby any framework that can accomodate the observed phenoma couldn't rightly be called -wholly- irrational (IOW, they weren't dumb - they just started out with a premise that ended up not panning out). If we used the word spirit today to refer to germs, sans all the stuff about who sends them and how they could be removed- it wouldn't really impede our ability to produce modern medicine. This is, of course, what we see with early medicines. Some of them actually worked, even though the people who leveraged them thought that a spirit was the vehicle for that work (in the case of balm in gilead, for example). Considering sickness to be a "foul vapor" can yield results - and those results in turn might suggest to a person that their explanation is adequate. We can sometimes "get it right" for the "wrong reasons". This might account for the prevalence and persistence of such beliefs across the globe- and it's easy to see why they would make their way into both the OT and the NT. Disease and illness have been with us for as long as there has been an "us". Any all-encompassing view of the world would have to include them, or it would run the risk of failing to explain a significant portion of our experience.
-and yes, it does have to be pointed out to people that there are no demons, when those people express very clearly that there -are- demons, and it's clear that this idea has somehow informed their conclusions. Garbage in, garbage out.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!