(August 14, 2014 at 10:47 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Of course one doesn't have faith in a placebo, the point is for them not to know it's a placebo, but are told it is a revolutionary procedure, That is what they have faith in.
But that's the equivocation you're making, as "faith" in the faith healing sense of the word, is not at all similar to the very reasonable expectation, based on evidence, that things doctors give you are meant to cure you.
What you're doing is the same thing theists do when they say "well, atheists have faith too!"
Quote:As it was stated in the article I posted: a man is dying of cancer of the lymph nodes, has difficulty breathing, and is bedridden. He receives injections of a new anticancer drug called Krebiozen (a placebo). Within days the tumors shrink by half and he is eventually released from the hospital. After he finds out he was given a placebo, he dies days later.
I'd personally be interested in seeing a citation on that, if you have one.
Quote:Since you say faith has nothing to do with it, why don't you try explaining how this phenomena works?
It's a psychological effect; the fact that psychology influences physiology to some degree is no great secret, but it's not the faith that's doing anything, it's myriad biological processes being altered by the patient's brain state.
Undeceived Wrote:The great thing about a relationship with Jesus, it's not based on fallible opinions. It's based on the Word of God and the Revelation of the Holy Spirit.
... Which is a claim like any other, that nobody has been able to even begin to demonstrate. Merely assuming it to be true because you want it to be, doesn't make it so.
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