RE: Brown and the word "robbery".....
August 16, 2014 at 10:57 am
(This post was last modified: August 16, 2014 at 11:18 am by Brian37.)
(August 16, 2014 at 10:26 am)Brakeman Wrote:(August 16, 2014 at 8:59 am)Brian37 Wrote: No matter what you saw on that tape, it still does not justify shooting an unarmed person after they put their hands up That was shoplifting, and that shove, if done by a white person, wouldn't have even been called felony assault.
The guy was shot because he attacked an armed policemen, not because he was black or because he stole some cigars.
The video is pertinent not because it shows a committed property crime, but because of the behavior observed in the crime of extreme belligerence.
Attacks on armed policemen don't turn out well for any social group in the USA. It's a STUPID thing to do, and your claim that it is somehow less stupid and more accepted when done by white criminals is laughable, and certainly needs some citations.
So, are you advocating that the police force should create an affirmative action policy where black perps are to be allowed 25% more offensive violent struggle time with a policeman before he shoots? Is that your goal for solving the problems in Philadelphia? Would that help the black portion of society?
BULLSHIT, he would not have done that in a white middle class neighborhood much less a rich neighborhood.
There were several witnesses who said the cop pulled him into the car. The only one claiming that the cop went for his gun was the cop. Regardless after he was free he was running away UNARMED, and was still shot several times, including with his arms up.
Again, I have seen, whites do far worse in bars, in domestic disputes than what this teen is accused of in that video. Now if the story from the PO is that the cop did not know then that means the mere act of harassing the kid over jaywalking is absurd.
Shoplifting and jaywalking either way does not constitute that cop doing what he did.
(August 16, 2014 at 10:26 am)Brakeman Wrote:(August 16, 2014 at 8:59 am)Brian37 Wrote: No matter what you saw on that tape, it still does not justify shooting an unarmed person after they put their hands up That was shoplifting, and that shove, if done by a white person, wouldn't have even been called felony assault.
The guy was shot because he attacked an armed policemen, not because he was black or because he stole some cigars.
The video is pertinent not because it shows a committed property crime, but because of the behavior observed in the crime of extreme belligerence.
Attacks on armed policemen don't turn out well for any social group in the USA. It's a STUPID thing to do, and your claim that it is somehow less stupid and more accepted when done by white criminals is laughable, and certainly needs some citations.
So, are you advocating that the police force should create an affirmative action policy where black perps are to be allowed 25% more offensive violent struggle time with a policeman before he shoots? Is that your goal for solving the problems in Philadelphia? Would that help the black portion of society?
NO ASSHOLE, no one is allowed to be "violent", your sucking the dicks of cops is why society doesn't trust them. Our country ignoring the disparity of who is more likely to be treated worse under the same circumstances is the problem.
The vast majority of urban poor who are non violent still outweigh violent people. Idiots like you look at the looting and burning of the one gas station, ignoring the majority of peaceful protesters and ignoring the video OF BLACK PEOPLE protecting the same gas station where the video of the shoplifting took place from looting.
BLACKS have much more to fear when even being pulled over for traffic violations, even with no felony record or criminal record. Blacks are still more likely to get punished more harshly for non violent crimes.
Crime between races is on average occur at the same rate, but blacks are punished at a higher rate and more severe rate than whites.
You are not going to bate me into the bullshit argument "look at what they do". Non violent people outweigh violent people in every race. Crime is also a ratio in every race as well.
I have worked low pay jobs all my life, I was a teen myself and did all sorts of stupid shit, seen all sorts of assaults by whites, witness vandalism by whites, and not once did I see a white person get shot, or even assaulted by cops even when they were called over physical assault.
How is it a white guy can take a machine gun into a movie theater and murder dozens of people and still make it to prison alive, but one guy jaywalking ends up dead over what?
You have your fucking head in the sand using that cop out excuse "look they get violent too".
That is exactly where republicans and the rich want whites to be. In fear of blacks so that they can get even the hurting middle class and poor whites to focus on race instead of wallet issues.