(August 19, 2014 at 3:01 am)revivin Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 2:58 am)whateverist Wrote: And if anything can always have existed, it might just as well be the universe itself
The reason why the universe could not always have existed because if it did you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened.
So your 'god' sat on his ass for 14 billion years just jerking off before deciding to make himself useful? Some god you've got there.