Abortion is morally wrong

[MJ the Skeptical]

First --
FUCK YOU.

I'm not a theist and have repeatly proved that point.

I don't even know who you are but, theist or atheist etc. there is no good argument I've seen against abortion (especially in the first trimester). I mean, in this whole reply of yours, you're the one who brought up no Anti-abortion arguments.

Even IF i was (again not) that HAS NOTHING TO DO with my moral arguements.

Most Anti-abortion people are theists, so sorry you got generalized. I'll make sure next time to exclude the atheists who want to impose their choice onto others, who want more unwanted babies in the world in an overpopulated world, who think women and men shouldn't have the right to choose parenthood. Don't go down the road of calling a fetus a person, especially not the early stages in utero.

This is a moral question, and if you don't think so then you are a dumba$$ and you should get out of this thread

Where's your argument that it's immoral that hasn't been refuted a hundred times a hundred different ways? This is like you saying we shouldn't use antibiotics because it kills all the good bacteria in our body along with the bad bacteria, so therefore it's immoral. That's your logic, pal. A fetus does not have sentience yet, maybe a case can be made for late term fetuses but not early on.

If you're against early abortions you're the immoral fuck here. I would actually concede to you that there is grey area of morality when it comes to late term fetuses but not much of a moral choice. The mother and father's rights always trumps the babes, I mean we will use abortion when the baby has defects or the mother's life is in danger because she is a fully grown, fully feeling human being, a baby and fetus is not.

what did you think you were going to see in a thread labelled abortion is morally wrong? LOL CATS?

If you have an arguement why you believe that abortion is not immoral - you have made a positive claim

And I've given evidence to that effect in this thread and in this reply. How about if the mother's life is in jeopardy example I brought up. Then you must concede that sometimes it is moral whether the baby lives or not. Unless you want us to kill the mother instead of a barely conscious fetus or baby. Or a baby who is going to be born of horrible birth defects, then abortion is the moral high ground in that instance. There is nuance, you know...

But I have given a completely secular rational for my belief.