RE: Dawkins sparks outrage for saying Down Syndrome babies should be aborted
August 26, 2014 at 7:22 am
(August 26, 2014 at 4:56 am)Aractus Wrote: On the second point you've drawn a straw man - I didn't say anything about the individual decisions, I was criticising Dawkins and his view that all [at-risk of] Down's Syndrome foetuses should be aborted. Unless you are making such a statement in a context where you are clearly distinguishing it from the treatment of Down's Syndrome people in society then you are perpetuating the view that the disabled at large are a drain on society and not worthy of being supported by the public purse. In actual fact it can be demonstrated that having disabled people in the community is not an overall drain on resources/negative thing for society.
... Which is why Dawkins later expanded on his view to draw that exact distinguishing line you're talking about. I doubt you'll find a person here who'll defend the initial tweet as being anything other than a hasty, poorly thought out generalization, but there's no excuse for pretending that he hasn't gone on to explain further and making your entire reaction about the tweet itself. It's really weird that you're talking about strawmen when you yourself are only addressing an incredibly small fraction of a person's overall position in the face of the rest of his argument.
Quote:What is however negative is excluding people because of the perceived value that a person puts on them.
As we've been pointing out for pages and pages now, a fetus is not a person. You can have a negative view of a certain kind of fetus without treating a certain kind of person any differently.
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