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Why we need a mandatory living wage:
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RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage:
(August 30, 2014 at 9:39 am)Chad32 Wrote:
(August 30, 2014 at 9:15 am)Blackout Wrote: That's something I disagree substantially - I don't think just taking away money form A and give it to B is the solution - It's economically unproductive at most - Instead raising the legal minimum wage would solve the problem from scratch. Perhaps I think like this because I defend the type of society where everyone can survive by themselves - Not by taxing other people - It doesn't mean a little bit of welfare is bad, it isn't, but fixing all problems (in this case America's, I'm not American so I might be wrong) by simply taking more from the rich is a sign of econ illiteracy, only someone who likes utopias would defend that.

I didn't mean to say just give everyone a million dollar check. I'm talking more like raising the minimum wage, increasing taxes on the rich, probably not taking any taxes at all from people who make under a certain number, and such.

I would expect everyone to like utopias. It's the ideal society. Even if a true utopia is unachievable, trying to be as close to perfect is the highest of goals.

Close to perfect is not an utopia, it's a possibility, there lies all the difference - I disagree with tax exemption, either everyone pays or no one does, if someone wants to receive benefits, let's say from HC or social security, they have to pay taxes even if it is 1$/€, it's not much and it is still not bad, better than nothing - Saying a certain category of people shouldn't pay taxes is discriminatory because they'll be having benefits without contributing.

You can rise taxes on the rich, but I'm not sure that would actually work, for a variety of reasons - IMO it is more productive (in Europe this would be my solution) to let the rich be rich but lower a lot the taxes on the poor - That would let them breathe, in Europe the poor pay lots of taxes - And progressive taxes do NOT work over here because there is always a way to pay less. A professor of mine suggested a proportional tax, very simple, EG everyone pays 5% taxes, equal to everybody - And the rich still pay more, since 5% of 100000000€ is more than 5% taken from 10000€. That's the tax I want - It is equal and no one gets discriminated, IMO both regressive and progressive taxes are discriminatory and do not work.
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Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Ryantology - August 29, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Diablo - August 29, 2014 at 4:00 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 29, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by BlackMason - August 31, 2014 at 3:43 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Ryantology - August 29, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Minimalist - August 29, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 29, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Losty - August 29, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Diablo - August 29, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Mudhammam - August 29, 2014 at 4:17 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Tobie - August 29, 2014 at 4:20 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 29, 2014 at 4:20 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Silver - August 29, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 29, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Diablo - August 29, 2014 at 4:30 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Mudhammam - August 29, 2014 at 5:49 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by DramaQueen - August 29, 2014 at 4:52 pm
Re: RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by KUSA - August 29, 2014 at 4:57 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Minimalist - August 29, 2014 at 5:21 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Dystopia - August 29, 2014 at 5:55 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Dystopia - August 29, 2014 at 6:14 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 29, 2014 at 6:10 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Minimalist - August 29, 2014 at 6:29 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Dystopia - August 29, 2014 at 7:09 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Tonus - August 29, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 29, 2014 at 7:36 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by CapnAwesome - August 29, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Mudhammam - August 30, 2014 at 12:09 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Ryantology - August 30, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Dystopia - August 30, 2014 at 9:08 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 30, 2014 at 8:36 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 30, 2014 at 9:11 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Dystopia - August 30, 2014 at 9:15 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 30, 2014 at 9:39 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Dystopia - August 30, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Tonus - August 30, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 30, 2014 at 9:53 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Dystopia - August 30, 2014 at 9:57 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Jaysyn - September 3, 2014 at 10:32 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Diablo - August 30, 2014 at 9:54 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 30, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Dystopia - August 30, 2014 at 10:11 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Baqal - August 30, 2014 at 10:20 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Baqal - August 30, 2014 at 10:37 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Drich - August 30, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Losty - August 30, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Ryantology - August 30, 2014 at 4:00 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Drich - August 31, 2014 at 10:34 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Mr.wizard - September 1, 2014 at 12:19 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Cato - September 3, 2014 at 12:07 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Drich - August 31, 2014 at 10:19 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Baqal - August 30, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 30, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Baqal - August 30, 2014 at 2:08 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Dystopia - August 30, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Baqal - August 30, 2014 at 3:15 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Tobie - August 30, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Diablo - August 30, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Tobie - August 30, 2014 at 4:30 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Diablo - August 30, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Dystopia - August 30, 2014 at 4:51 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Diablo - August 30, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Chad32 - August 31, 2014 at 8:45 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by BlackMason - August 31, 2014 at 9:21 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Losty - August 31, 2014 at 10:28 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by psychoslice - September 1, 2014 at 2:23 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Drich - September 2, 2014 at 10:51 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Isun - September 3, 2014 at 9:24 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Minimalist - September 3, 2014 at 12:31 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Jaysyn - September 3, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 12:15 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Dystopia - September 6, 2014 at 2:05 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by bladevalant546 - September 4, 2014 at 8:03 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Isun - September 4, 2014 at 10:10 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by bladevalant546 - September 4, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 8:57 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by bladevalant546 - September 4, 2014 at 9:01 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by bladevalant546 - September 4, 2014 at 9:10 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Brian37 - September 4, 2014 at 9:31 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by bladevalant546 - September 4, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by CapnAwesome - September 6, 2014 at 11:35 pm
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2014 at 10:29 am
RE: Why we need a mandatory living wage: - by Isun - September 4, 2014 at 1:54 pm

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