Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?

[The_Flying_Skeptic]

one 'laws of logic' is that x cannot be y at the same time. that has to be true for all universes. whatever object of whatever universe cannot be another object at the same time.

logical arguments such as

all x objects have property x
jordan is x object
jordan has x property

apply to any universe.

even the logical fallacies should apply to all universes.

It seems more to me that you are inferring that all logical universes are logical... but I see no reason to make the assumption that all universes are logical. In some universe... perhaps a thing that is x is also a thing that is y, b, Q, e, and d... and I see not a reason why it would have to be true of all universes.

See... another universe would not necessarily be like this one. In fact... aside from the rules of logic (which we attribute to this universe, though perhaps not accurately), there is nothing to suggest that a thing can't be both A and B at once. I should say 'exclusively', but I should hope that it is inferred, lest someone say something ridiculous like: "I'm both a human and happy at once... logic is broken!".

Again, on what grounds do you make the assumption that all universes are necessarily logical?

well... i think you're wrong. i don't get your happy human example. in every universe 2 + 2 = 4. in every universe, you should be able to perform logical operations. even in heaven!