(August 31, 2014 at 10:34 pm)Drich Wrote:(August 30, 2014 at 4:00 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: This is so obviously wrong. Any business that reports a profit is a business that can, and absolutely should, afford to pay its workers more. Any business that can't afford to pay a living wage to its employees is a company that doesn't do enough business to deserve a profit. If making a living wage isn't a right, earning a profit sure as fuck isn't, either.
Profits of the company are not the entitlements of the employees. Profits whatever they maybe are for the planning and ensuring the company's future. So that everyone who is employed gets to keep their job. If people want to earn more money they should work for it. Taking the tax off all overtime would be over a 50% increase in their current pay rate. This increase will be far more than any governmental demand for a minimum wage increase.
(August 31, 2014 at 10:28 pm)Losty Wrote: If you are a business owner making a profit and paying your employees $8 and hour while they receive government benefits, then you are a theif. These types of business owners are the real welfare queens bringing in profits while relying on tax paying citizens to pay their employees. It's disgraceful.
We do have 8 dollar employees, and we have 32 dollar an hour employees. (Respectively the 8 dollar guys make 12 an hour on OT and 48 dollars per hour on OT.)
Not everyone warrants more than 8 dollars an hour. But everyone who works more than 40 hours do indeed earn an over time rate. Now @ 48 dollars an hour anything more than 15 hours plus their regular 40 hrs, the government takes out more than the employee takes home. The 8 dollar guys has to work a little longer but the net result is the same.
You guys are blind if you think the business owner who you work for is your enemy here. It's the state that punishes hard work, and can take more than 1/2 your pay check is the problem.. But that is the cost of big government and the passing of the buck regulations you are arguing for.
If your a business owner paying your employees $8 per hour you are part of the reason why the government has to tax people at the rates they do. If you and other business owners paid living wages there would be no need for big tax rates because we wouldn't need to pay for assistance.
Raising the minimum wage does not cause prices to rise and actually every time we have raised the minimum wage the effects have been positive for everyone. Any business owner that thinks keeping wages the same while prices continue to rise is a fool. Your draining the buying power of your customer base.