TFS Wrote:the 'a' in your case is a property, not an object.
And are you suggesting that an 'object' is not an attribute given to otherwise meaningless matter?
Quote:why not 2 + 2 = 22: because in any universe you should be able to count to four with your fingers.
I can already refute that, in this very universe. A man has only 3 fingers. 2 on his left hand... one on his right.
Similarly... why should one with at least 22 fingers not be able to count to 22 with them? Quote:If you teleported to a different universe and somehow you were in a bubble that contains the conditions in our universe that support life, you would still be able to point to four objects in this other universe.
Surely not necessarily... what if there were no objects in this other universe? Perhaps one's ability to point in this universe is lacking? Maybe there is but one great object in this universe? Perhaps one can count to every number save 4 in this universe, for it does not exist? Perhaps numbers do not exist in this universe... and by chance perhaps logic does not either?
Quote:Intelligent lifeforms in different universes would use math in the same way we do.
Why? Perhaps they are even using the same 'system' of math, but have discovered something about it that we have not, and are thusly using it differently. About like a modern society's mathematics compared to the math of a stone age civilization
And then again... perhaps their math is formulated entirely differently, and cannot occur in our universe. And then again... it may be that math simply does not exist in a different universe... or perhaps even "intelligent lifeforms" do not exist in the universe to discover and make use of the math
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
