(September 3, 2014 at 4:29 pm)XK9_Knight Wrote: (in response to Shaman)No apology required. I wasn't really entering into the discussion with any intent other than to share my observations.
Sorry Shaman, I feel like we were excluding you from the conversation.
There’s certainly groups who see things as being “morally relative.” No doubt; culture has certainly changed our perceptions of right and wrong, but wouldn’t you agree we have made “moral progress?” And if we are progress, towards what exactly? Typically theists response is that this is an example of moving towards a moral standard that exists apart from human ingenuity (I believe this was C.S Lewis’ position).
How do you feel about that; what’s your take on that?
As far as my agreement that we (Humans I presume) have made "moral progress" (whatever that is), I'll have to disagree. That's my entire point. You say we've made progress - I say I doubt that very seriously. If anything at all, we Humans have juggled and shifted what we call good and evil so many times that eventually everything will not be as we identify it today. I believe we're not at all unlike the first humans, we've just redefined our terms to appear more civil.