RE: Abortion is morally wrong
September 4, 2014 at 5:10 am
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2014 at 5:13 am by MJ the Skeptical.)
(September 4, 2014 at 12:11 am)answer-is-42 Wrote: address my arguements, not your perception of arguements. I have NEVER made any claim to IMPOSE my position on ANYONE. As I have stated NUMEROUS times, this is a PHILOSOPHICAL question NOT a legal one, so FUCK YOU for completely making up a position and claiming I hold it (also known as a straw man).
I've yet to hear a sound philosophical argument against abortion all together though. You're proving that every time you fail to present an argument.
(September 4, 2014 at 12:11 am)answer-is-42 Wrote: Next, for all of you who claim that my claim that a fetus deserves right, as I have stated this is a requirement for MY arguement.
You don't get to decide what stage of life constitutes rights. The law does.
(September 4, 2014 at 12:11 am)answer-is-42 Wrote: abortion is not wrong, and that is niche that my arguement lives.
Which you've failed to justify this entire thread.
(September 4, 2014 at 12:11 am)answer-is-42 Wrote: The primary arguement in that context is that of personal autonomy,
Which fetuses do not have.
(September 4, 2014 at 12:11 am)answer-is-42 Wrote: but I have tried to argue that there are numerous times that we willingly give up autonomy and if you actually read my original arguement you would see that is the basis of my arguement.
When do you give up autonomy? when you get pregnant? if so, then no, that's asinine.
(September 4, 2014 at 12:11 am)answer-is-42 Wrote: If you don't like them then FINE say you don't think a fetus deserves rights and move on, it doesn't add to the discussion I was trying to have in THIS thread.
Yes, cognitive human beings have precedence over a barely conscious fetus.
(September 4, 2014 at 12:11 am)answer-is-42 Wrote: Next -- a great many of you START at the position that oppositon to abortion is immoral but do not justify this belief. Having unjustified beliefs is intectually lazy no matter what side of the arguement you are on.
You're the one who's against a law in place. Abortion is legal, you're the one who has to prove that it should be unlawful, and so far the pro-life knuckle-draggers have nothing that holds water.
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.