(September 5, 2014 at 7:06 am)Michael Wrote: I think we'll have to agree to disagree Esquilax. I just don't see the Euthyphro dilemma as a problem for the Judeo-Christian understanding of God and goodness (Godness). I see the problem from the perspective of Euthyphro's presupposition about the separateness of God and virtue, but when it comes to things I find challenging in my Christian faith, this just isn't one.
But I respect your right to still disagree :-)
That's just the thing though: virtue must be separated from god, else virtue is merely god's subjective opinion and if your god turned out to have a different nature, you would be here extolling very different virtues. If you're defining god's ideas of morality as inherently good, that just means you've embraced one side of the dilemma and are fine with it because of your trust in the authority of that god. But if your god was a different person, if he was a god whose nature holds that murder is morally good, your position could not change: you would still have to sit here and accept that murder is morally good, because god's nature is good and he has said so.
Thus, your moral laws aren't based on the moral content of the action, but the authority of the law giver. Whether they change or not isn't the issue at all, stability was never the problem, the problem is that you're deriving your morals not from the good of the action, but because they were delivered to you by a source you trust, and that is profoundly worrying.
Here's another question for you: how did you decide that god was the good one and satan the evil one?
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