Richard Dawkins says "What if you're wrong?"

[The_Flying_Skeptic]

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You could go far in emphasizing how a mass murderer would go to heaven over an atheist simply for believing in Jesus Christ. Does that make sense?

I'd just like to point out that this would have no bearing either way on the truth of the religion. Just because Christianity has rules you don't agree with doesn't make it false.

Firstoff one can observe that such an addition technically is a non-sequitur for it is a normative statement not a logical necessity to worship good entities.

Which was my point to begin with?

Secondly, being right on existence can coexist with being wrong on the moral clause. Consistency of moral statements can be evaluated independently from the existence clause. This is why it is easier to reject most theisms on basis of the morals they present.

My whole point was that consistency of moral statements is independant of a religions truth. I don't understand what you're trying to say.

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well, i could be wrong in my interpretation, that's why i was waiting for him to respond but he hasn't responded yet so I'll try to explain his post based on my interpretation. He said that he agrees with you and I do too on the fact that there is no way to disprove or prove the 'existence clause': "being right on existence can coexist with being wrong on the moral clause." That's where he agrees with you but I think he would disagree with you when you say that moral statements are independent of a religion's truth because we can evaluate a religion's truth or dismiss a religion based on the consistency of its moral clauses. in the end it's a decision over whether or not you want to abide by a dogma that is inconsistent or not. My statement on eternity in hell for atheists is my trying to emphasize a belief held by Christians that goes against what most people consider 'moral' now. I actually know someone (who knows a group of people) that refuses to believe in the most popular versions of Christianity because she does not believe anyone should go to hell for eternity.