(June 12, 2010 at 4:43 am)Purple Rabbit Wrote:(June 12, 2010 at 4:26 am)The_Flying_Skeptic Wrote: i'm tired of formatting quotes.Yeah man, it really sucks.
(June 12, 2010 at 4:26 am)The_Flying_Skeptic Wrote: no quantum logic is not a logic i would label 'illogic'. quoteOK, that clarifies some of the confusion.
(June 12, 2010 at 4:26 am)The_Flying_Skeptic Wrote: Hilary saying that his arguments for empirical logic wouldn't work the same way for thinking entities in other universes or quote Hilary saying that a universe may be illogical. i don't think an agent is needed to 'allow' logic either as theists would have you believe (as you mention as well thus i agree with you).The thing is that when we arrive at the conclusion that other kinds of logic are possible and we at the same time have no idea what alternatives might be out there, it is possible that alternatives that look illogical to us now might be feasible later. It is therefore that I say that the term "in all possible worlds" is a vacuous one.
my choice of words "if there is no reason to believe an illogical universe may exist and no meaning in the term 'illogical universe', saying a universe is logical becomes redundant." a logical universe: a universe where logical conclusions may be formulated by a thinking entity even if no thinking entity exists in that universe.
whatever alternatives should be feasible by logical means, right?
