@ Drich: I agree with you that the term I used is modern and sloppy. But I knew what was meant by it.
The verse wasn't talking about hate, but enemies. To love your enemy is to be like Christ.
This bit supported my view I thought:
Of course it isn't. It's a modern translation of the Greek
I am certainly not advocating that salvation is unnecessary. God loves the unsaved which is how they end up saved. Because he still loved them. And God loves the sinners such as the prostitute and tax man. Those engaged in sin, he still loved and still saved. If he harboured hatred, there would be no second chance.
Moreover, hell should be consistent with this. An agape God cannot change his nature with regard to those in hell after death. Eternity understood as an infinite length of time is not an accurate translation of the original text.
John 12:32
A ministry of hatred is not something I recognise. It is inconsistent with my belief.
I checked your psalms references and couldn't find a translation that stated that God hates.
You mention the difference between sin and evil. Could you provide references for those please.
All are forgiven if they accept it. Only by refusing it do you earn a place in hell. It is never withheld.
The verse wasn't talking about hate, but enemies. To love your enemy is to be like Christ.
This bit supported my view I thought:
Quote:Love seeks the welfare of all, Romans 15:2, and works no ill to any, 13:8-10; love seeks opportunity to do good to 'all men
Quote:You will note, that no where once is agape, agapao, or any variation of the root, is 'Agape' ever translated "unconditional love."
Of course it isn't. It's a modern translation of the Greek
Wikipedia Wrote:Agape (/ˈæɡəpiː/[1] or /əˈɡɑːpeɪ/; Classical Greek: ἀγάπη, agápē; Modern Greek: αγάπη IPA: [aˈɣapi]), often translated "unconditional love"
I am certainly not advocating that salvation is unnecessary. God loves the unsaved which is how they end up saved. Because he still loved them. And God loves the sinners such as the prostitute and tax man. Those engaged in sin, he still loved and still saved. If he harboured hatred, there would be no second chance.
Moreover, hell should be consistent with this. An agape God cannot change his nature with regard to those in hell after death. Eternity understood as an infinite length of time is not an accurate translation of the original text.
John 12:32
Quote: when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.
A ministry of hatred is not something I recognise. It is inconsistent with my belief.
I checked your psalms references and couldn't find a translation that stated that God hates.
You mention the difference between sin and evil. Could you provide references for those please.
All are forgiven if they accept it. Only by refusing it do you earn a place in hell. It is never withheld.
Quote: Mark 10:21: “Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him.” Here we are explicitly told that Jesus loved an overt, open, non-repentant, non-submissive Christ-rejector. He loved him.
