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General questions about the Christian idea of God and love
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RE: General questions about the Christian idea of God and love
(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: well, frodo is right, it is the thing to do. And the bible explains in great detail why. Christ himself took quite a bit of time explaining those reasons in the book of Matthew in parable form. The parables of the wheat and chaff, the wheat and weeds, sheep and goats, all explain why there is a separation between those in whom God desires and those whom God is going to cast out where their is weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Except for the "just" part.

(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: you seem to be confused with the defination of that word.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/misanthrope

A misanthrope hates all of human kind. God simply hate evil men. Who among us can not say the same, even if we may differ on the identification of who is and is not evil?

Hey, its your fantasy. You can go around saying that he hates everyone or only evil or only good or that he hates randomly - I'm fine with all of that.

(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: Not true the op is not Christian and as I pointed out 1/2 the questions asked were based on the idea that God is Omni benevolent. This defination is one many of you support, but at the same time like to use the paradox found in the doctrine of Omni benevolence.

Its the definition that mainstream Christianity supports. Are you saying that all those people who call themselves Christians are not Christians?



(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: It is to that failed doctrine of Omni benevolence that most of you no longer believe in God.

No, there are a multitude of other logical problems as well.


(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: Which makes it a simple failed doctrine of man, and not an actual description of the God of the bible.

Then it should be easy for you to convince your fellow Christians of that and get them change their definition and stop spouting shit like "god loves you".


(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: frodo like the rest of us are only responsible to what we have been given over to understand. If he needs to worship an all loving God, then the God of the bible is forgiving and loving enough to forgive him for it IF he is wrong.

But if Frodo needs to worship an all-loving god, which according to you, your god isn't, then clearly Frodo isn't worshiping your god - which is something your god does not forgive.


(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: of course not. Sam 15, was a command issued in one specific instance to one specific set of OT Jews under king Saul. We know this because this was not the m/o everytime the Jewish army conquered a rival nation. Each and everytime this sort of thing happened their was a special command given.

So, your god's command in this instance was contrary to his morality?

(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: finish your thought.

That was it.

(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: If God is not responsible, then who is? Man.

Or no one is.

(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: If man is not bound to God then he is free to justify any act he so chooses.

He is still bound by reality.



(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: I love it went you guys make a charge like this and do not support it with any evidence. That makes my job easier. I can simply dismiss your comment by saying you have confused Christianity with Islam.

Both of you supposedly worship the same god - so no confusion there. Your biblical morality is as absolutist and authoritarian as the Islamic one.

(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word rational.
It means to simply have a reason.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rational

Please read the definition you provided:

"based on facts or reason and not on emotions or feelings".

So when I say a rational morality, I mean a morality that is based on facts and reasonably derived and not one based on emotions of feelings.


(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: By this definition the extermination of nearly 7 million Jews was a rational act by hitlers germany.
Why because they had a reason for doing what they did.

No, by this defintion, since their so-called justification was not factual but emotional, their actions were not rational.


(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: Again with out God pop morality is subject to what the mob wants to indulge in.

A mob morality would be as irrational as your god's - one is based on appeal to popularity, the other on appeal to authority.

(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: Just look at our taboo lists, and how the list keeps on shrinking. What was one generations taboo, is another's right.

Something to be expected when you start letting go of irrational morality.

(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: again no proof for your statement. Dismissed as biblical righteousness is well defined.

Different Christians interpret your biblical morality differently - therefore, not well-defined and open to interpretation.


(September 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: not a correction, clarification. Biblically unsupported makes it empty.

Okay.
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