RE: General questions about the Christian idea of God and love
September 15, 2014 at 12:21 am
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2014 at 12:25 am by Drich.)
(September 14, 2014 at 7:20 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: What do you mean Frodo is entitled?Frodo is a God of the bible/Jesus Christ centered Christian, as such has the benfit of attonement to cover any mistakes in Doctrine he may have. Fore the same forgiveness available to the Christian when he willfully sins is their in abundance more when he is ask/seek/knocking while constructing the best picture of God he possible can.
Quote:Am I entitled to build the picture of God's nature that I need?with your currently stated religious views? No. At least not before God.
Quote:Because I am currently witnessing a flexibility in God's nature that allows it to change with whatever satisfies the person's rationale.in a manor of speaking that is the very reason we have so many different denominations.
Quote:That leaves my picture of God, as I need it to be according to the logic and evidence that I am coerced into acknowledging, as an idea that can have both positive and negative--powerful and weak--effects on an individual's psychology... or for that matter, simply none at all.
Their is a limit. Christ warns us not to become too comfortable/luke warm in our beliefs. Rather we need to push our understanding of God and have it evolve as we walk and grow in the Spirit. Otherwise it would be better if we never knew of God.
Quote:Not if you believe God's nature is infinite love and goodness...God's love is indeed boundless to those in whom He has chosen to love. (As per John 3:16 those who believe) However his anger is equally boundless to those in whom He hates.
Again what is so difficult to understand there?
Quote: but then you're basically conceding that pretty much of all Christendom has had it wrong. I applaud the boldness of your move.not at all, only those who speak to an endless love that is nowhere to be found in the bible. That is a modern catholic construct, and not a biblical precept.
We just had a thread on Christian platitudes, and how to decern empty Christian fluff from the doctrine of Christ. In it I say the doctrines of Christ must all have one qualifier in common, in that they must be taught by Christ. Well, here is a prime example of an empty Christian platitude that is not taught by Christ.
I worship the God of the bible and not the god of popular christianity. I have constructed a vision of the God of the bible by only using what the bible says He is like. In some areas we agree and in others we do not.
Does it make me more Christian and someone else less? No not at all. The only way someone who believes God is Omni benevolent is any less of a believer than, someone who recognizes what the bible actually says about God's love, is when That person believes because that is what they were told in Sunday school, and no other source. In short when their belief starts and ends there. Meaning they do not grow in What they know. They do not read the bible or seek God out on His terms, rather they try and make God fit who they think Him to be.
Quote:God loves his children, and hates those who do evil towards them or others. Any parent can relate to this what is the big mystery here?Perhaps Jesus and God should get their messages in line.
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How so? Where do you see a difference?
Will respond to everyone else later.